> On Apr 10, 2017, at 7:22 PM, Sean Heber via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Daniel Duan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Using tools isn't a bad thing. Designing language assuming users are using 
>> tools with certain capability is kind of a bad thing.
> 
> I see this sentiment on this list a lot. Where does it come from? Is there 
> any supporting research? What drives it?

I personally am one of those people advocating not to design it around an IDE 
for these reasons:

- GitHub (or other SCM)
- support for other OSs (as Swift is designed not just for Mac/iOS)
- non-Xcode IDEs. Believe it or not, from time to time I reach for other apps, 
such as CodeRunner.


> 
> (I don’t mean to pick on Daniel - I’m curious about this overall from anyone 
> that has sources. It has become such a prevailing refrain at times that I 
> think it’d be best for everyone if we knew if it was even true!)
> 
> l8r
> Sean
> 
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