> On May 6, 2017, at 12:36 PM, John McCall via swift-evolution
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>> On May 6, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Félix Cloutier via swift-evolution
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> Concern: `swap` is quoted a lot for a method that would break under this
>> rule, but as it happens, `swap` with the same value on both sides is (should
>> be) a no-op. Is there a way to not trip the static or dynamic checkers in
>> well-defined cases like that one? Is there any way to check that two inout
>> parameters refer to the same value?
>
>
> The only reasonable way to do this is statically, and why would you call
> 'swap' statically with the same l-value for both arguments?
When static analysis can determine that a swap is always a noop, I can’t see
any reason not to flag it as an error.
But Félix’s question was also about the runtime case. And he has a good point.
Here’s a compelling example where allowing the noop swap would make sense:
extension Array {
mutating func shuffle() {
for i in indices {
let j = i + Int(arc4random_uniform(UInt32(count - i)))
swap(&self[i], &self[j])
}
}
}
In this code:
It’s necessary to allow j to sometimes equal i to get a uniform distribution of
random permutations.
Static analysis can’t determine that the noop occurs sometimes but not always.
Adding a check for i == j adds a branch condition to a tight loop. More
importantly, it’s easy to forget this check since static analysis won’t flag
it. It’s just a hidden land mine, which seems contrary to Swift’s “safety
first” aesthetic.
Putting all that together, it would probably be more Swift-like to have swap()
be safe, and if necessary add an unsafeSwap() func that fails on the noop case
and thus avoids the cost of the check in optimized code.
Note that the code above fails even under Swift 3, which explicitly disallows
swapping with a runtime check (“fatal error: swapping a location with itself is
not supported”). So nothing here to undermine the SE-0176; the proposal isn’t
introducing a problem that doesn’t already exist.
Cheers, P
> John.
>
>>
>>> Le 2 mai 2017 à 13:07, Ben Cohen via swift-evolution
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>>
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