> On Aug 1, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:21 Michael Ilseman via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 8:14 AM, Taylor Swift via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve noticed from this and older threads that everyone agrees on what core 
>> libraries we want, but they never actually get built. Perennial requests 
>> seem to be
>> 
>> - RNG and cryptography library (CryptoSwift could be a good base for this)
> 
> A new implementation of crypto is probably a very bad idea. A blessed 
> wrapping around the platform’s preferred implementation of crypto, however, 
> is certainly needed.
> 
> My understanding was that this is already part of the Swift server working 
> group’s efforts, and a large part at that.
> 

That’s right, and this is definitely better handled by them: 
https://swift.org/server-apis/

>> - Generic Math library/Vector library
> 
> This is pretty compelling.
> 
>> - Basic data structures (Tree, Balanced Tree, Heap, Queue, SkipList, graphs, 
>> etc)
> 
> Which flavor/implementation of tree, balanced tree, heap, graphs are 
> desirable here? The desirability of many of these structures is often 
> dependent on which of many competing tradeoffs were made. Implementation 
> details can dramatically shape the general applicability of a data structure.
> 
> For example, it might make sense to adopt something similar to 
> https://github.com/lorentey/BTree <https://github.com/lorentey/BTree> as a 
> general underlying representation for some kinds of higher level collections 
> (or the mechanisms to easily adapt them).
> 
>> - Modern DateTime library
> 
> Foundation provides many of these, though I’m sure there are always 
> opportunities for improvement. Do you see a specific need that cannot be 
> addressed with improvements to corelibs-foundation? There’s a large amount of 
> domain expertise in Foundation and they are pretty active on the mailing 
> lists.
> 
>> - Modern String processing toolkit
> 
> This is a huge gap in Swift’s current offerings, and I’m personally invested 
> in improving the situation here. At the risk of hijacking this thread, do you 
> have a good bullet list of the kinds of facilities you imagine useful? More 
> specifically (and to keep the discussion scoped), are there any tools beyond 
> something like good language support for regular expression matching and 
> substitutions?
> 
>> - 2D Graphics library (similar to cairo)
>> - Windowing/UI library
>> 
> 
> By this, do you mean cross-platform pure Swift rethinks? This is certainly 
> interesting, but a pure Swift rethink is likely a lower priority than 
> exposing bindings for existing cross-platform approaches (e.g. you mentinoed 
> cairo). Like crypto, it might make sense to establish blessed 
> wrappers/apinotes/overlays on top of tried-and-true open source offerings.
> 
>> I think David Turnbull tried to get something like this started years back 
>> but it fizzled out pretty quick, probably because the Swift foss community 
>> was much smaller back then. Time to try again?
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Georgios Moschovitis 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > That's what's happened with the Server APIs Project
>> > https://swift.org/server-apis/ <https://swift.org/server-apis/>
>> >
>> > I would like to see more of this, and math/BigNum seems like a good 
>> > candidate.
>> >
>> > Another is a modern date/time package, standing on the shoulders of
>> > https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=310 
>> > <https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=310> and similar.
>> 
>> + 1
>> 
>> I would also love to see standard implementation of Graph data structures, 
>> at least some common protocols.
>> Dunno why this versatile data structure is not included in standard 
>> libraries (similar to Map/Dictionary), Set, etc.
>> 
>> -g.
>> 
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