To prove (or potentially disprove) my assertion that this is not just sugar, 
how would you accomplish the following under the current proposal?

        let a = async longCalculationA()
        let b = async longCalculationB() //b doesn’t wait for a to complete 
before starting
        let c = async longCalculationC() //c doesn’t wait for a or b
        let result = await combineCalculations(a: a, b: b, c: c) //waits until 
a, b, and c are all available

(Note: this is using my version of async below which doesn’t use futures)

Thanks,
Jon


> On Aug 25, 2017, at 2:13 PM, Jonathan Hull via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I actually really like the idea of using ‘async' to start a computation in a 
> non-blocking way.  It is extremely common in real-world code to want to start 
> a few computations/downloads at once in the background and then use the 
> results together...
> 
> I think full-fledged futures could be a framework thing added on top, but 
> what I would really love to see at the language level is that using ‘async’ 
> just allows you to defer calling ‘await’.  That is, you could get a value 
> back from something called with async, but you would be forced to await that 
> value before it could be used:
> 
>       var image = async downloadImage()  //Image is type UIImage
>       //Do something else here
>       let size = await image.size //The compiler forces me to call await 
> before I can actually use the value
> 
> This looks somewhat similar to a future, but you can’t interact with it as a 
> separate type of object.  The value above is just a UIImage, but with a 
> compiler flag/annotation that forces me to call await on it before it can be 
> accessed/used.  The compiler has a lot more freedom to optimize/reorganize 
> things behind the scenes, because it doesn’t necessarily need to make an 
> intermediate object.
> 
> I don’t think this is just sugar.  It adds expressivity and control for a set 
> of very common use-cases which aren’t fully supported by await alone.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jon
> 
> 
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:40 AM, Trevör ANNE DENISE via swift-evolution 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Swift community,
>> 
>> I was really interested by the recent Task-based concurrency manifesto and 
>> Concrete proposal for async semantics in Swift.
>> 
>> Looking at beginAsync() and Futures, I had an idea for a new syntax based on 
>> the `async` keyword, I'd love to hear your feedback about this idea:
>> https://github.com/adtrevor/Swift-ideas/blob/master/New%20async%20keyword%20usage.md
>>  
>> <https://github.com/adtrevor/Swift-ideas/blob/master/New%20async%20keyword%20usage.md>
>> 
>> Would such a syntax make any sense?
>> 
>> Thank you ! :)
>> 
>> 
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