Thank you everyone for contributing. I don't mean to talk more on this issue. If anyone at Apple wants to contact me to do things that go beyond typewriter code, you are welcome. Otherwise... well I guess you'll be copying Noctivagous later.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Saagar Jha via swift-evolution < [email protected]> wrote: > > Saagar Jha > > On Aug 30, 2017, at 16:42, Robert Bennett via swift-evolution < > [email protected]> wrote: > > But countless editors have popped up since vi(m) first appeared. If > anything, this is a testament to the fact that old, “crusty” technology can > remain relevant forever, even as new technologies offering better > ergonomics enter the market. > > Also, could someone tell me how ImageLiteral and similar types are > represented in the file? What appears when you open it in TextEdit? This > same sort of thing — presumably some ascii delimiters signifying specially > formatted data (I don’t have access to a computer) — could enable the > desired matrix, sqrt, etc functionality in Xcode. (Unless Xcode is doing > preprocessing of those types before compiling.) > > > It’ll show up as #imageLiteral([file name here]). Xcode will detect these > automatically and fill it in with an image. > > On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Ryan Walklin via swift-evolution < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I think we've possibly moved beyond the scope of swift-evolution. > Skim-reading the OP's manifesto demonstrates nothing relevant to general > purpose programming languages or Swift in particular. > > Ryan > > August 31, 2017 8:40 AM, "John Pratt via swift-evolution" < > [email protected] > <%22john%20pratt%20via%20swift-evolution%22%20%[email protected]%3E>> > wrote: > > Well, here is one question: 100 years from now do you think all computers > should use vi? > At what point would people ever have anything that ever slightly resembles > something advanced? > Do you ever want anything that > slightly resembles science fiction, ever, in society? Or should everyone be > using vi for the rest of civilization? > > On Aug 30, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Eagle Offshore <[email protected]> wrote: > While I am in theory a fan of literate programming and enjoy integrated > programming environments when they are integrated into a complete literate > system (Smalltalk browsers, LISP environments, HyperCard, etc...)...In > practice if its just a language and not a complete holistic system, and I > can't command the entire thing with God's own editor (I speak of vi - > because its "there" and it is the only editor guaranteed to be "there" on > any system I am ever likely to try to access), I'm not gonna use it. > Just my $0.02 > > On Aug 28, 2017, at 7:57 PM, John Pratt via swift-evolution < > [email protected]> wrote: > I sent a postal envelope to the Swift team with an article I wrote, > arguing that > symbols and graphics would push the programming language forward. > Wouldn’t it be nice to have an actual multiplication matrix broken out > into code, > instead of typing, “matrix()”? It seems to me Swift has the chance to do > that. > Also: why does "<==" still reside in code as "less than or equal to” when > there is a unicode equivalent that looks neat? > Why can’t the square of x have a superscript of 2 instead of having > “pow(x,2)? > I think this would make programming much easier to deal with. > I expound on this issue in my article: > http://www.noctivagous.com/nct_graphics_symbols_prglngs_draft2-3-12.pdf > Thank you for reading. > -John > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > > > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution > >
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