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> I think you’re missing the idea here: the idea isn’t to provide exactly 
> syntax mapping of Ruby (or Python) into Swift, it is to expose the underlying 
> semantic concepts in terms of Swift’s syntax.  In the case of Python, there 
> is a lot of direct overlap, but there is also some places where Swift and 
> Python differs (e.g. Python slicing syntax vs Swift ranges).  In my opinion, 
> Swift syntax wins here, we shouldn’t try to ape a non-native syntax in Swift.

Just wanted to point out Ruby language rules. For swift, you’d probably want to 
have property-style accessors always return something akin to a function 
pointer.

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> 
>> More difficult would be the use of ‘=‘, ‘!’, and ‘?’ - all legal in Ruby 
>> method names as suffixes.
> 
> Using those would require backquotes:
> 
> x.`what?`() 

Ruby attributes syntax does wind up looking a bit ugly there. For `bar` on 
class `Foo` in ruby, 

x.foo() # return value of attribute foo
x.`foo=`(5) # assign value of foo as 5

Not pretty, but it should work. All the approaches I’ve been thinking up to 
improve that wind up being pretty nonintuitive and fragile.


-DW
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