We’ve modified the website installation instructions to include this 
dependency. 

Thanks!
- mish

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Thomas Catterall <m...@swizzlr.co> wrote:
> 
> We discovered the hard way most of the runtime deps that are minimally 
> required for any debianish distro. These should probably be put on the 
> website. I would open a PR but the website isn't open source (hint, hint).
> 
> https://github.com/swiftdocker/docker-swift/blob/master/Dockerfile#L12 
> <https://github.com/swiftdocker/docker-swift/blob/master/Dockerfile#L12>
> 
> Tom
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 5 Dec 2015, at 00:15, swift-users-requ...@swift.org 
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>>   1. Re: Getting Started - swift.org <http://swift.org/> - Ubuntu 14.04 
>> installation -
>>      dependencies - libicu-dev (Musser, Dale)
>>   2. Re: Ignore header file with module? (Harlan Haskins)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 00:07:29 +0000
>> From: "Musser, Dale" <musse...@missouri.edu <mailto:musse...@missouri.edu>>
>> To: "swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>" 
>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [swift-users] Getting Started - swift.org <http://swift.org/> - 
>> Ubuntu 14.04
>>    installation - dependencies - libicu-dev
>> Message-ID: <b3eefb07-3634-40e0-9403-21033d912...@missouri.edu 
>> <mailto:b3eefb07-3634-40e0-9403-21033d912...@missouri.edu>>
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>> 
>>> This must be a 14.04 thing, I didn’t have a problem with ICU on 15.10.
>> 
>> Very likely.  And, as pointed out by Dmitri it is a matter of what comes 
>> installed as default on the system.  A server instance is going to be pretty 
>> different than a client instance. And, what additional packages were 
>> installed over time can change the environment as well.
>> 
>> I just want it to be as easy as possible for people to get swift installed 
>> and working with as few hassles as possible (yeah, buy a Mac!).  A straight 
>> forward list of dependencies and how to install them would make it a better 
>> experience.  I am pushing students to use swift and plan to use it in an OO 
>> course in the spring and would like to point them to swift.org 
>> <http://swift.org/> and have it give them what they need to get things 
>> installed and running (so I have a selfish motive).  Most of my students 
>> will already have an Ubuntu instance that is pretty new and probably set up 
>> previously as a server for web app development and C programming.  My 
>> instance is a lot like the one’s they have which means for me they will run 
>> into at least one dependency issue that swift.org <http://swift.org/> 
>> doesn’t mention on the getting started page.  So, I appreciate anything you 
>> do to make the getting started page a great place to get started :)
>> 
>> BTW, swift being available open source is totally awesome! Many thanks to 
>> everyone who made this happen.  I wish all my students had Macs, but in a CS 
>> program there is a lot of diversity of technology and a lot of opinions on 
>> platform of choice.  Being able to get swift in everyone’s hands makes it 
>> possible for me to use it in a non-iosDev course (which we have) on a large 
>> scale (100+ students per semester).
>> 
>> Dale
>> 
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>> University of Missouri
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>> From: <mawa...@apple.com <mailto:mawa...@apple.com><mailto:mawa...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:mawa...@apple.com>>> on behalf of Mish Awadah <mawa...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:mawa...@apple.com><mailto:mawa...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:mawa...@apple.com>>>
>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2015 at 5:36 PM
>> To: Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com><mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>>>
>> Cc: Dale Musser <musse...@missouri.edu 
>> <mailto:musse...@missouri.edu><mailto:musse...@missouri.edu 
>> <mailto:musse...@missouri.edu>>>, "swift-users@swift.org 
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>> Subject: Re: [swift-users] Getting Started - swift.org <http://swift.org/> - 
>> Ubuntu 14.04 installation - dependencies - libicu-dev
>> 
>> This must be a 14.04 thing, I didn’t have a problem with ICU on 15.10.
>> 
>> - mish
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com><mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Dale, this is a good suggestion we will look into it.
>> 
>> - Daniel
>> 
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Musser, Dale <musse...@missouri.edu 
>> <mailto:musse...@missouri.edu><mailto:musse...@missouri.edu 
>> <mailto:musse...@missouri.edu>>> wrote:
>> 
>> I installed Swift on Ubuntu 14.04 according to the instructions on 
>> https://swift.org/getting-started/ <https://swift.org/getting-started/> and 
>> ran into the following when running “swift”:
>> 
>> error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.52: cannot open shared 
>> object file: No such file or directory
>> 
>> This was resolved by doing:
>> 
>> sudo apt-get install libicu-dev
>> 
>> I think it would be a good idea to add this (and any other dependencies and 
>> how to resolve them) on the getting started page on swift.org 
>> <http://swift.org/><http://swift.org/ <http://swift.org/>>.
>> 
>> Students (a good audience for open source swift) are likely to run into this 
>> problem and it would be good to make it as easy as possible for them to get 
>> swift up and running.  The Ubuntu 14.04 was an instance I installed on 
>> Linode that had been set up as a web server and I did not as a matter of 
>> course have libicu-dev installed.  And, googling  libicuuc.so.52 or the 
>> error didn’t immediately get me to the package leading me to believe users 
>> make have to work to find how to resolve the missing library.
>> 
>> Dale
>> 
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>> College of Engineering
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>> Columbia, MO  65211
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>> musse...@missouri.edu 
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>> From: Harlan Haskins <har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com>>
>> To: Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>>
>> Cc: swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>
>> Subject: Re: [swift-users] Ignore header file with module?
>> Message-ID: <751190da-a837-4bb6-af1f-307d1ab48...@harlanhaskins.com 
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>> So what happens is flipper.h declares a struct called `flash`. When I use 
>> `swift build` to build that module, I get this error:
>> 
>> /Users/harlan/.flipper/include/flash/flash.h:29:3: error: redefinition of 
>> 'flash' as different kind of symbol
>> } flash;
>>  ^
>> /Applications/Xcode-beta.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk/usr/include/ncurses.h:566:28:
>>  note: previous definition is here
>> extern NCURSES_EXPORT(int) flash (void);                                /* 
>> implemented */
>> 
>> Even though I have no need for `curses.h` at all.
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> (+Jordan, who may have some good ideas)
>>> 
>>> This is going to be problematic, I am not sure yet how to deal with this.
>>> 
>>> Can you explain more about exactly how this ends up failing? Do you have 
>>> code which imports both Darwin and flipper?
>>> 
>>> - Daniel
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Harlan Haskins <har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> +swift-users, again
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, the flash struct is necessary, and we can’t really rename it. 😕
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>>>>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>>>>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see now I misunderstood your question, I thought you just wanted to 
>>>>> exclude a particular header that was in flipper that defined that struct, 
>>>>> so that it wouldn't conflict.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is the header that defines said struct in the flipper necessary for your 
>>>>> client?
>>>>> 
>>>>> (FYI probably best to keep swift-users in the CC list if possible just so 
>>>>> others can benefit from the info).
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Harlan Haskins <har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah! I somehow missed that keyword in the docs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, it seems the path is 
>>>>>> /Applications/Xcode-beta.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk/usr/include/curses.h
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If I intend this to be cross-platform, how can I exclude that file in a 
>>>>>> non-Mac specific way?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also it doesn’t seem to be excluding anything — I still get the issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My file is currently
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> module CFlipper [system] {
>>>>>>    exclude header 
>>>>>> "/Applications/Xcode-beta.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk/usr/include/curses.h"
>>>>>>    exclude header 
>>>>>> "/Applications/Xcode-beta.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk/usr/include/search.h"
>>>>>>    umbrella "/Users/harlan/.flipper/include/"
>>>>>>    link "flipper"
>>>>>>    export *
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Daniel Dunbar <daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:daniel_dun...@apple.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Try using:
>>>>>>>  exclude header "/path/to/header.h"
>>>>>>> in the module definition.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Daniel
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:06 PM, Harlan Haskins <har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:har...@harlanhaskins.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there a way to ignore a specific header file when declaring a C 
>>>>>>>> dependency? I’m working with a library that publicly declares `flash` 
>>>>>>>> as a struct, and that conflicts with `ncurses`’s definition of 
>>>>>>>> `flash`. His code makes no use of curses.h, and I won’t be using it 
>>>>>>>> either.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is there any way I can specifically exclude `curses.h` from my 
>>>>>>>> modulemap file? It’s a very simple file.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> module CFlipper [system] {
>>>>>>>>    umbrella "/usr/local/include/flipper/"
>>>>>>>>    link "flipper"
>>>>>>>>    export *
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> 
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