So far it seems to me that Swift is a powerful "c" type language that can also
be used in a script-like way. Definitely a win.
Hopefully as version 3 gets closer there will have emerged some useful pure
swift modules for DB access (Oracle, SQL Server/MongoDB etc) as well as other
middleware. I'm expecting that IBM will have some good involvement here.
-Dave
> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Dru Satori via swift-users
> <swift-users@swift.org> wrote:
>
> I would argue that the language syntax is forgiving though, as my follow
> examples demonstrated.
>
> The funny thing, is that your point about minutes versus hours is the very
> reason BASIC came to be ( easier math language ). But I think to a degree, we
> are discussing semantics. It seems we agree on the principle, that Swift is
> good, but it isn’t there as general purpose business dev language. :)
>
>
>
> From: Jens Alfke <j...@mooseyard.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 7:40 PM
> To: Andy Satori <d...@druware.com>
> Cc: Don Wills <don.wi...@portablesoftware.com>, Donald Pinckney
> <djpinck...@ucdavis.edu>, "swift-users@swift.org" <swift-users@swift.org>
> Subject: Re: [swift-users] "business applications market" flame
>
>
>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Dru Satori <d...@druware.com> wrote:
>>
>> The thing that I see about Swift is that right now, today, on Linux or OS X,
>> if Swift is installed, I can open a terminal:
>>
>> Touch hello.swift
>> vim hello.swift
>> i
>> print("Hello Swift");
>> Esc
>> :wq
>> swift hello.swift
>
> You can do that with C too:
>
> touch hello.c
> vim hello.c
> i
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main() {printf(“Hello World!”); return 0;}
> Esc
> :wq
> cc hello.c && ./a.out
>
> Does that make C a scripting language? :)
>
> Having a REPL or playgrounds doesn’t really change what the language itself
> is; it just indicates good integration of the compiler into the development
> tools.
>
> To me, what defines a scripting language is a forgiving syntax that lets you
> bang stuff out fast without worrying about types, and super high level
> libraries for doing file and text manipulation and running other processes.
> By contrast, even if I had a C REPL and playgrounds, it would still be a
> pain to use C to process a directory full of text files and transform their
> contents and pass that to another tool. Whereas I could do it in minutes with
> Ruby or bash.
>
> —Jens
>
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