> On Feb 7, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Chengyin Liu <chengyin....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the feedback! 
> 
> > This is probably source-compatibility that you want, not necessarily ABI 
> > compatibility.
> 
> You are right. Thank you for the correction.
> 
> > BTW, are you mixed-source? If so, were you able to try out PCH for bridging 
> > headers as identified here: https://swift.org/blog/bridging-pch/? 
> > <https://swift.org/blog/bridging-pch/?>
> 
> We are. We are excited with PCH but currently compiler fails with segfault 
> using Xcode 8.3b2 for us. We are still investigating to provide the best info 
> there.
> 
> > If you can produce a test case that repros the blowup, can you put that in 
> > a JIRA?
> 
> Filed: http://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-3892 
> <http://bugs.swift.org/browse/SR-3892>. Notably this function builds even 
> slower with 3.1. (2.3: 0.6s → 3.0: 12s → 3.1: 22s)
> 

Thanks. It seems like it’s the closure argument to map specifically that needs 
an annotation (see comment in SR).

> > “Near misses” on Optional Protocol Method Implementations
> 
> I don't think those are actual bugs. From a compiler standpoint, the code is 
> fine. We did hit another issue with protocol near miss that may count as a 
> compiler issue. I will try to create a reproducible case.
> 

They’re not bugs, but near-miss detection is a major quality-of-life 
improvement that the compiler should be better at. It falls under the general 
category of having better and more helpful diagnostics.

> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 2:44 PM Michael Ilseman <milse...@apple.com 
> <mailto:milse...@apple.com>> wrote:
> Comments:
> 
> > Since the Swift ABI changed between versions 2 and 3, even correct Swift 3 
> > code that imports Swift 2 libraries will not compile. This incompatibility 
> > made it difficult to parallelize code conversion.
> 
> This is probably source-compatibility that you want, not necessarily ABI 
> compatibility. Even if the ABI was stable, you still want to use the decls 
> from the other module, and thus you’d still be in a rough spot. But, with 
> source compatibility in Swift 4, the other modules could remain written in an 
> older syntax/semantics while being compiled with the new compiler (and thus 
> the new ABI). This would mean a gentle module-by-module incremental 
> conversion regardless of the ABI for a Swift 3 to Swift 4 conversion.
> 
> > Debug Build Time
> 
> BTW, are you mixed-source? If so, were you able to try out PCH for bridging 
> headers as identified here: https://swift.org/blog/bridging-pch/? 
> <https://swift.org/blog/bridging-pch/?>
> 
> > However, we did find a function...
> 
> If you can produce a test case that repros the blowup, can you put that in a 
> JIRA?
> 
> > So, to complete the Swift 3 migration we strongly encouraged the entire 
> > team (minus the ones doing the migration) to really, truly take a Saturday 
> > off work 😄.
> 
> Sounds like some good came of it after all!
> 
> > “Near misses” on Optional Protocol Method Implementations
> 
> These are great JIRA fodder too!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Chengyin Liu via swift-users 
>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> At Airbnb we recently migrated to Swift 3, just in time for Xcode 8.3. We 
>> waited as long as possible because our codebase is massive. We have hundreds 
>> thousands lines of Swift.
>> 
>> In the end we were able to migrate without a code freeze. 3 engineers worked 
>> on it for 3 weeks without disrupting the normal development.
>> 
>> We shared our experience in this blog post: 
>> https://medium.com/airbnb-engineering/getting-to-swift-3-at-airbnb-79a257d2b656#.j800yp6l8
>>  
>> <https://medium.com/airbnb-engineering/getting-to-swift-3-at-airbnb-79a257d2b656>
>> 
>> Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!
>> -- 
>> Chengyin
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