Tom Marble wrote:
Phil Race wrote:
I don't follow what this has to do with Swing. 2D would be more affected ..
Swing is ignorant of whether the Motif or X toolkit is specified
and even works with the headless toolkit.

Also the existing toolkits can still leverage all of the
same internal 2D native code for rendering. I don't see where
you are going to get that from unless if its going to be
a pure Java solution.

Please note that following the Projects guidelines followups are
intended to go to the discuss list [1].

Thats a broken process. It should go to affected groups.
Any assumption that every one reads or even knows about 'discuss' is wrong and for ever will be.


I confess I am not a client or graphics expert.  I can appreciate
the advantages, however, of device emulation and multiple-head
clone outputs/inputs, etc.  If Swing is less appropriate than 2D
then perhaps 2D would be a more appropriate Group to sponsor this
Project?

So does it really make sense to propose a project you think is a cool idea you don't understand and then disappear? I think proposals should come only from someone who is committed to the idea and will work on it.


Allow me to clarify, as well, that the purpose of this project
is experimental and for prototyping.  Think of this as a KSL [2]
style Project that should be associated with the appropriate
Group (i.e. 2D or AWT).  Obviously such a Project, if approved, would
need a VCS "sandbox" as described in [1]: "Projects that are not
tightly related to the development of JDK 7 will, for now, also be
given a regular java.net project within the java.net OpenJDK Community."

Can we get a Group sponsor?

I don't think we have a clue what sponsorship means. It certainly can't mean in this case any work from Sun engineers ( wish we had time for such ideas ourselves), or taking it back into openjdk
in any time in the forseeable future.

It just seems like an interesting expt this time, with unproven practical applications.

-Phil

--Tom

[1] http://openjdk.java.net/projects/
[2] http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/ksl_open

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