Thanks for all the prompt replies; I'll just center the windows and offset the secondary ones, since I can't have the operating system do it for me. I appreciate the sample code to help me do that! Just spent another 45 minutes wading through the Javadoc to little avail on one more (seemingly minor) problem. I have a JTextArea in a JScrollPane. It's not editable and used only for a running log (i.e. periodically call textarea.append). However, if I ever scroll up the log, appends no longer scroll it all the way down again. I was trying to figure out a call such as: textarea.append("some text"); textarea.scrollToBottom(); // or maybe scrollpane.scrollToBottom(); To make sure it always shows the bottom line when a new line is displayed. I would appreciate it if you have encountered this in the past, if you could tell me how you did it. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Swing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://eos.dk/mailman/listinfo/swing