A proof can be the use of a specific service and for sure first payment ...

Cheers
pap

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> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Xaver Aerni
> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. März 2006 10:52
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: AW: AW: [swinog] contract
> 
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> This is correct... But if you have a juristic Problem you 
> need "Beweise". And Webmails and all this protocols are the 
> same like faxes.
> 
> 
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> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gabriel Ambuehl
> Gesendet: Freitag, 24. März 2006 10:08
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: AW: [swinog] contract
> 
> On Friday 24 March 2006 09:41, Xaver Aerni wrote:
> > 2. In juristical E-Mailforms are not a contract. The best 
> way is you 
> > send a contract by post... Like all other Providers like Swisscom, 
> > Sunrise, etc. Than are you shure, that the contract is ok.
> > Only on Web... I think you will have some difficutes...
> 
> IANAL, but I don't think that's entirely correct: by Swiss 
> law, most contracts don't require any specific form (just 
> agreement over the terms). They can be made orally (not 
> leaving any trace, really), on phone, by letter, under 
> circumstances even by just ACTING like you agreed (i.e. mail 
> order business that sends you goods after you've ordered 
> them) and by extension most likely by email as well.
> 
> There's a select number of contracts that need a specific 
> form (for instance, buying real estate) but far and by large, 
> people are free to make them in any form they like. 
> 
> Another example: buying something in Migros makes you and 
> Migros enter a contract by law (Kaufvertrag), even though 
> neither one of you actually does say so.
> 
> As for a German page: IIRC, Germany has a concept of a 
> "Taschengeldparagraph" 
> which basically should allow minors to enter contracts as far 
> as their allowances can cover them. 
> 
> 
> regards,
> Gabriel
> 
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