On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 09:52:12AM +0100, Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote:
> 
> > All mailing list forward mail with the original sender in the
> > enveloppe 
> 
> Not true: Mails from the swinog-mailinglist reach my mailserver with
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] as sender envelope address
> 

Jup, my bad that's true most use some sort of VERPs. Unless it is a simple
distribution list.

> > and if you forward your mail on one server to another one
> > with e.g. a simple .forward rule it will also re-use the same
> > envelope from address. Forwarding mail is very common and it is
> > important to use the same envelope form address in the forwarding
> > path. Everybody who denies this fact does not understand the email
> > system and the way bounces work.
> 
> If you chose to forward mail this way, then you'd better make sure that
> the destination mail server doesn't apply spf checks for mails coming
> from the relaying server. or that the forwarding server rewrites the
> sender address. 
> 
> If you're a provider that allows its users to forward their mail to
> remote addresses, then I'd advise you to use sender rewriting and thus
> offer your customers a reliable mail relaying. That's a marketing
> argument. 
> 

Woohoo. Breaking something and then requiring others to fix it for you and
labeling something that is less reliable as "reliable". 
Let's see, I think that's summing it up perfectly:
http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20060619.html

> 
> But in the end, everyone can do whatever they want to do ;-)
> 

No they can't because of self-appointed Anti-SPAM marshals breaking
deliberatly official standards causing marjor pain to others.

-- 
:wq Claudio
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