Salut, Stanislav,

On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:14:31 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
> > > What you can fit into 2MB flash is Linux kernel 2.4.x, plus some
> > > very limited number of libraries, daemons and utilities. Also,
> > > even the newest 2.6.x kernel is permanently popping up with ipv6
> > > improvements and bugfixes. It is physically impossible to run a
> > > 2.6.x Linux system from 2MB flash. You can, however, run it from
> > > 4MB, and there's even some room for ipv6. The dd-wrt software for
> > > Linksys routers seems to support it, but I didn't test it.
> > 
> > A slimmed down NetBSD kernel can fit into 2MB including IPv6
> > support. (You have to put some work into it though.)
> 
> unfortunately, NetBSD is way behind Linux in regards to new hardware
> support, especially for those consumer-grade devices. Most of the new
> reference boards come with quite poorly designed Linux BSP, and I
> haven't heard of any BSD support from the embedded hardware vendors.
> 
> Besides, as I told already, this linux/bsd hacking is for geek
> enthusiasts. Consumer electronics vendors will just push new hardware
> to the market.

You only claimed before that common IPv6 implementations are hard to
fit onto a small amount of flash memory, which is not true. Also, I do
see many consumer-grade devices capable of running NetBSD without any
modification besides installation, but that's really off-topic.

> I looked into the ipv6 linux kernel sources, and found quite a lot of
> hton/ntoh conversions. Also, for example, subnet mask matching is way
> more complex in foreign endianness :)

I fixed part of a BGP toolchain today and didn't need to do any
extensive byte order conversions on my little-endian netbook, merely
because I was aware of what operations I (can) perform in network byte
order and which I can't.

> ipv6 has many more bytes to swap in the packet header, that's the
> only reason :)

Only 64 of them are ever needed. Woah there, what a coincidence that
most modern CPUs come with 64-bit registers (and those will eventually
end up in the embedded market was well in a couple of years. Well,
not the current CPUs, don't take me by the word, I dare you. :-P).

                                Tonnerre

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