Hello, I think is it the old Problem... Swisscom and other ISP which are hosting some adult content has received some Mails... Please remove the page xxx.hotxxxx.xxx or we make some DDOS Attack every yy hours... And the Problem is the most of the DDOS Attaks comes over botnetworks. The Backborn line are full if the attaks comes. The cyber war between the adult content (anbieter) is gonig since 2 or more years. Now is the problem. The attaks are so often that a provider must look what he is doing. The best way is to remove adult content. Then the ISP has fixed the problem (for the Moment) But it is possible that other content anbieter make the same. They say p. exemple please remove the webpage books.ch from your network else we are making a lot of DDOS Attaks. At the moment is this only by the adult content a problem. But i think in the future will be this a problem by all content catagories. Which are making money.
Greetings Xaver > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Claudio Jeker > Gesendet: Freitag, 4. September 2009 10:10 > An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch; swi...@swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Swisscom "disables" xxx website!? > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:33:48PM +0200, Adrian Senn wrote: > > Ok this time it was "only" a xxx website. And next time? > > > > Sorry but I think you would not think like this if you are a > customer of an ISP that is under constant DDoS because of a > single site. > Yes it sucks that you can buy botnet DDoS for little money > which are so big that they actually affect the ISP > infrastructure and so all customers at once. But it also > sucks that the owner of the attacked sites are unwilling to > pay for the service which will protect them. Most of the time > those sites don't have the money to get the connectivity and > protection they need so should the unaffected customers pay for them? > Are you willing to pay more? > > > Sorry if a provider goes the way that he shut down some of his > > customer, because of a DDOS Attack it will be voulnerable also for > > other cyberterror things. > > The big question is, why was the customer DDoSed in the first > place 99% of all customers are never DDoSed but suffer from > the 1% that are and those 1% are normaly not even willing to > pay more for the excess bandwith, the excess support time, or > additional HW needed just for them. > And sorry, this has nothing to do with cyberterror, this is > just the good old russion buisiness network trying to > blackmail or destroy some competitor. "cyberterror things" I > think you watched too many 24 episodes. > > > And voulnerable means not on the technical way, but on the > financial > > and political way. > > > > Did you ever read the AGB of your provider? I think I never > saw a clause mentioning that the ISP will protect you from > DDoS and and other attacks. > Normaly it is the opposide. > > > So it would be interesting how Swisscom would solve this > challenge in > > the future. > > What about the other ISPs? This is a global issue. > Actually what about Microsoft and all those other big shot > software comapanies distributing crap and providing the > hotbeds for the botnets? > > -- > :wq Claudio > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
