Hoi Marc,

[email protected] here :)

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Marc SCHAEFER <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It seems the Swiss POP for sixxs (IPv6 connectivity) is unreachable
> from Cablecom (net2000), Sunrise ADSL, Bluewin ADSL, but is reachable
> from Green ADSL.
It is unreachable for any ISP which does not peer with IP-Man at TIX
or CIXP (or other exchanges like AMS-IX and SFINX). See below for
rationale.

> It used to be reachable in november 2009 when I did my last tests, on
> Cablecom (net2000).
> Does anyone has an idea why it is not routed correctly ?
I beg to differ an opinion: it is routed correctly. :)

> Is this because it's a lone /24, and most providers don't peer correctly
> for less than /22  ?  An administrative problem (like when EUnet was
> routed through Amsterdam for SWITCH customers -- well at least
> it was routed!)
It's not an administrative problem, it's a purposeful configuration.

> Or is it because IP-MAN wants direct peering and doesn't announce the
> prefix globally ?
This is the reason - it is only announced to peers, not to transit
providers. One obvious way to reach it is to start peering with IP-Man
at one of the IXPs at which they are present. I, too, am a cablecom
subscriber and I do not have access to the machines either from home -
I have to hop over to another network first, one that peers with
IP-Man.

> Maybe to avoid being charged by strange peering plans ?
Well, it's to avoid being DDoSed to hell and back[tm]. There is an
EFnet server (irc.efnet.ch) and an IRCnet server (ircnet.ipng.ch) and
a well known tunnelbroker (chzrh01.sixxs.net) in that /24 - and all of
them are packet magnets, unfortunately :(

> PS: I am especially interested because I am considering to route a old /24
>    from a /15 (allocation unspecified) somehow, and want to see if it is
>    really usually unfeasible from a global routing perspective, or
>    from the practical quirks of commercial operators today.
I can confirm (as owner of that /24) that there was never a problem
announcing it, and it used to be globally visible. Now, it is in a
gray area, and purposefully not visible worldwide.

If you have a /24 you should be generally accepted by most every ISP
out there, as far as breaking aggregation of your /15, I cannot
comment (but I say: go for it)

groet,
Pim
-- 
Pim van Pelt <[email protected]>
PBVP1-RIPE - http://www.ipng.nl/


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