"...is not of the same opinion that its employer..." Exactly!
Robert -----Original Message----- From: Jerome Tissieres [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Montag, 14. Oktober 2002 10:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: R�p. : Re: [swinog] FMG revision and SWINOG Same opinion for me, SwiNOG is a technical group and it was created for technical discussion "only". Moreover, It could create problems for some of us if we create an association and the association is not of the same opinion that its employer. But, I think the Swiss ISP work to create an assocation to have more weight to be able to discuss political or legal problems. Cheers, Jerome >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12.10.2002 10:09:05 >>> On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:36:55PM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: > Pascal Gloor wrote: > > I second... but not it comes... shouldnt we, at least, create a SwiNOG > > association? So we would probably have a bit more 'power' and people would > > perhaps listen us more seriously.. Andre? any comments? Others comments are > > also welcome ;-) > As I already answered to Fredy that in opinion we don't need that > overhead and we don't need any more "power", we have plenty already. I agree with that. SWINOG is a technical group, and not a association with political goals. But there are other assosciations: for example the SIUG. The Swiss Internet User Group is not exactely a "user group". It tries to mediate between users, providers and politics. Most of our board members are techies, working for providers or elswere in the IT business. If you are interessted in the social, technical and political aspects of the net, feel free to join us. As SWINOG, SIUG will also send in a Vernehmlassungsantwort to the FMG. I wanted to post our answer here, but it is not finished yet and a will be cut off the net for a week (military service). More information (mainly in German) about SIUG can be found here: http://www.siug.ch Forgive me this short non-commercial break. Have a nice weekend, Matthias -- while (!asleep) sheep++; PGP KeyID: 1024/688E6CD9 FP: 3C59 DE10 DFD4 ED57 E8F4 19A8 B048 1FD2 ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/ ---------------------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/
