Let's get into a Windows is sooo cool discussion instead! ;-)

guet's neus.....

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Von: John Morgan Salomon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2003 20:46
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [swinog] hack


Not to get into the whole "Linux-has-this-oh-yeah-well-BSD-has-that"
thing, but while we're at it, you might be interested in TrustedBSD
at http://www.trustedbsd.org/

Cheers,

-John




Nicolas FISCHBACH wrote:
> Peter Keel wrote:
> 
>> * on the Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 11:51:44AM +0100, John Morgan Salomon 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Seriously:  I don't know whether Linux supports it, but
>>> you should look into either chrooting your web services
>>> (all your services, for that matter) or even running them
>>> in a jail.  
>>
>>
>> It does, of course. "apt-get install jailtool". HP has an even more
>> sophisticated jail-solution for linux called "compartments".
> 
> 
> Or use something like SubDomain: http://www.immunix.org/subdomain.html
> 
>> We normally compile the kernel using grsec http://www.grsecurity.net
>> which provides several different protections in excess of the normal
>> possibilities: ACLs, non-exec stack, chroot-restrictions, auditing-
>> features, randomized IP-IDs, randomized PIDs and so on. This puts 
>> Linux up to what you otherwise only get with OpenBSD and even more.
>> Most importantly, the non-exec stack will render most buffer-overflow
>> attacks commonly used by script-kiddies useless (Note: you _can_ 
>> overflow them nevertheless, but it takes more skill. And heap-based
>> overflows will work also). Which gives us just the few extra days we 
>> need to patch our systems. 
> 
> 
> PaX (http://pageexec.virtualave.net) which is used in the grsec
> patch also catches most heap based overflows and return into
> libc attacks but there's a performance impact.
> 
> For some attacks against PaX see:
> - The advanced return-into-lib(c) exploits:
>   http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=58&a=4
> - Bypassing PaX ASLR protection:
>   http://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=59&a=9
> 
> Nico.


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