Viktor,

This is really not the way you or any other customer should be treated.
I apologize for that and send you the EOS announcement via this way.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/1600/prodlit/1865_pp.htm

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps214/prod_eol_notice0918
6a00800c4693.html

I hope this helps you.

For a replacement, it depends what you are trying to achieve and what
are your configuration options. I would look at the C800 family or the
1700 family, even though it is Cisco!! I still believe it's the best
product in the market.
www.cisco.com/go/800    or www.cisco.com/go/1700

I'll for sure forward your email to the correct people within our
company, in order to prevent other customers to have the same
experience.

Appologies again,
Wish you a nice day

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Viktor Steinmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 March 2003 10:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] Cisco arrogance...


Hi everyone

I wanted to order a Cisco 1601 @ our distributor and got the
information, that 
this product doesn't exist anymore. So I wanted to check back with
Cisco, if 
that's really true, of is our distributor just doesn't want to sell this

thing anymore (because there's nothing mentioned on the Cisco Website,
that 
this product is EOL)

Just a small phonecall, I thought - But....

When I asked the phone receptionist for the PM, I just got the answer,
that 
I'll have to ask my re-seller. Telling her, that I don't want to speak
to a 
reseller, because that's what I just did, I got the answer, that I would
have 
to talk to a different re-seller then... No chance to get through to
somebody 
with a clue.

The Cisco Website doesn't contain any *useful* contact information for 
Switzeland - It says, that their CEO's name is Mark Helfenstein - but no

e-mail address....

Can anybody give me an e-mail address of somebody @ Cisco with a clue
and not 
arrogant enough to deny any customer contact??

Any suggestions for a nice replacment for the 1601 (NOT from Cisco...)?

Cheers,
Viktor

-- 
Viktor Steinmann - System and Network Engineer
Easynet AG, Hardturmstrasse 135, 8005 Zuerich, Switzerland
Phone: +41 1 560 32 00, Fax: +41 1 560 32 01
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