Tom,

You should talk to Opera instead of the ISP(s)! 

Appears like Opera is delivering visited Web sites to the
Mediapartners-Google engine to get the information required to drive their
AdSense "you can make some money" when placing on your web site.

Google for "Mediapartners-Google Opera" and enjoy.

-Kurt.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 10:42 AM
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Subject: [swinog] Provider spying out users surf activities?


Hi

I was really surprised, as the "Mediapartners-Google/2.1" visited my page
just a few minutes after my visit. This is only a testsite and i am sure
that never visited this page since October 2002. So this could not be by
accident...

adsl-x-y-fixip.tiscali.ch - - [09/Nov/2003:10:05:10 +0100] "GET /favicon.ico
HTTP/1.1" 404 286 "http://tom2.nine.ch/"; "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; X11; Linux i686) Opera 7.21  [en]"
crawler8.googlebot.com - - [09/Nov/2003:10:09:16 +0100] "GET /robots.txt
HTTP/1.0" 404 273 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1
(+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"
crawler8.googlebot.com - - [09/Nov/2003:10:09:16 +0100] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200
494 "-" "Mediapartners-Google/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

I was on this http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html site and didn't find any
spying information.

have a look at http://products.tiscali.ch/de/tiscali-agb.pdf paragraph 4,
which says:

[...]
Dar�ber hinaus bearbeitet Tiscali DataComm AG ohne das Einverst�ndnis der
betroffenen Kundschaft keine personenbezogenen Daten �ber die Nutzung von
Dienstleistungen im Zusammenhang mit dem Internet. Der Kunde ist damit
einverstanden, dass seine Daten an verbundene Gesellschaften im Ausland
�bermittelt und dort vor�bergehend oder dauernd gespeichert werden. [...]

For me, this does not allow the Provider to sell this Information and to
process it...

How many of you feed this Google engines? Is this legal?


-tom
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