No.. I did not.
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To: Mel Whitten
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Swlfest] Fwd: Public comments sought for anticipated
adverseeffe ct on historic properties
Mel,
Did you happen to work with Matt Blaze?
-Ed
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From: Mel Whitten
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 11:31 AM
To: Discussion list for the Winter SWL Fest
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Subject: Re: [Swlfest] Fwd: Public comments sought for anticipated
adverseeffe ct on historic properties
Ed,
Many years ago.. Paul Newland, AD7I and I worked for AT&T. While at the
Labs, Paul developed and deployed an AMTOR com system for WOO. Later, I don't
know if he ever was able to utilize the antennas for any ham activity or not.
I doubt it.
I don't think it was AMTOR that made those reported "spooky whale sounds." :-)
Mel, K0PFX
----- Original Message -----
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To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Swlfest] Fwd: Public comments sought for anticipated
adverseeffe ct on historic properties
Some birds make nests on top of poles like that don't they? Shame to lose
that piece of habitat. CRAIG
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Ed Cummings <[email protected]>
To: Discussion list for the Winter SWL Fest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Swlfest] Fwd: Public comments sought for anticipated adverse
effect on historic properties
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 03:47:02 -0500
Wouldn't mucking about in the marshlands with
heavy equipment to rip out hundreds of poles and
metal antennae cause far more ecological damage
than just leaving them in place to rot? Who came
up with this dumb idea--a government contractor looking for a nice contract?
I wonder if any hams or pirates ever made use of
the HF antennae after AT&T left. Quite a ground plane!
Many times I listened to WOO and similar AT&T
Long Lines HF stations back in the day for
entertainment. What caused that spooky "whale sound" artifact?
-Ed Cummings
At 12:15 PM 11/5/2015, Richard Cuff wrote:
>Hi everyone - See the note below...the US Fish &
>Wildlife Service is considering some shoreline
>pole removal for AT&T's WOO shore-to-ship
>transmitter site in New Jersey; this site was
>also used for VOA broadcasts from 1944 onward.
>Public comment is invited; see the link down
>near the bottom of the message.. Also - we
>should have an update on the 2016 Fest
>information within the next week; watch this
>space! Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA USA
>---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:
>Cultural Resources, FW5 <[email protected]>
>Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM Subject:
>Public comments sought for anticipated adverse
>effect on historic properties To:
>[email protected] Dear North American Shortwave
>Association: The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service
>proposes a pole removal project in the tidal
>marshlands of the Good Luck Point (Ocean Gate)
>and Manahawkin units of Edwin B. Forsythe
>National Wildlife Refuge in Ocean County, New
>Jersey. The undertaking will contribute to
>saltmarsh enhancement funded by the Disaster
>Relief Appropriations Act of 2013. The proposal
>is for hundreds of poles to be removed, in
>addition to cables, wires, metal towers, and
>concrete blocks. The goal of this action is to
>enhance coastal marsh habitats by increasing
>marsh resiliency from impacts of large storm
>events and other ecosystem stressors. The poles
>are part of inactive shortwave antenna fields
>associated with AT&Tâs ship-to-shore shortwave
>communications system, which was in operation at
>the sites from the early 1930s until 1999. The
>wires connecting the antenna poles were removed
>by AT&T prior to the creation of the National
>Wildlife Refuge units. Good Luck Point in
>Berkeley Township, Ocean County includes a
>shortwave transmitter building and antenna
>field. The municipality owns the shuttered
>building, while the poles of the inactive
>antenna field are on Refuge land. Under the call
>sign WOO, the shortwave facility at Good Luck
>Point (known as Ocean Gate) was a renowned
>transmitting station, which helped broadcast
>Voice of America around the globe after 1944 and
>enabled communication with ships at sea
>throughout the twentieth century. The historic
>property is eligible for listing in the National
>Register of Historic Places. The proposed
>project will remove approximately 340 wooden
>poles from the inactive antenna field, along
>with several metal antennae. Manahawkin in
>Stafford Township, Ocean County includes the WOO
>companion site, which consists of a shortwave
>receiving station and antenna field. Via
>Manahawkin, shortwave communications from ships
>at sea were linked to Americaâs telephone
>network from the 1930s until 1999. The entire
>Refuge unit is within a conservation easement to
>the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which does
>not own the building. The historic property is
>eligible for listing in the National Register of
>Historic Places. The proposed project will
>remove approximately 113 wooden poles from the
>antenna field. Several metal antennas will be
>removed, as well. Because both of the historic
>properties represent well-preserved examples of
>nationally significant shortwave facilities,
>they have been determined eligible for National
>Register listing. Consequently, the proposed
>removal of poles from the antenna fields will
>cause an adverse effect under Section 106 of the
>National Historic Preservation Act. A mitigation
>program is being developed in consultation with
>the New Jersey State Historic Preservation
>Office. In accordance with Section 106 of the
>National Historic Preservation Act, the U.S.
>Fish and Wildlife Service seeks public comment
>on the anticipated adverse effect. The public is
>invited to submit comments concerning the
>projectâs effects on the historic properties
>to [email protected] . The public comment
>period ends on November 15, 2015. Additional
>information is available via this Web link:
>http://www.fws.gov/refuge/edwin_b_forsythe/
>Thank you for your interest. -- U.S. Fish &
>Wildlife Service Cultural Resources Program
>Division of Refuge Field Support Northeast
>Regional Office 300 Westgate Center Drive
>Hadley, MA 01035-9589
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