Very true!  Even DeForest is guilty of it. He did NOT invent the audion vacuum 
tube as he was largely credited for, he took someone elses idea and ran with 
it.  CRAIG

-- Curt Phillips W4CP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First of all, this celebrates the anniversary of the first broadcasting 
licensed by the government.  If the government didn’t approve it, it didn’t 
happen.  :-)  The scofflaws you mention don't count.  And just because the 
government hadn't set forth any regulations at the time of their actions 
doesn't let them off the hook.  They should have known to have waited for 
governmental regulations and approval. The government has broad powers in the 
ways of radio.  Just like at the AM day timer where I work on weekends, someone 
asked how we determined the sun-up and sun-down times.  I told them that the 
FCC has an official sunrise and sunset time for our location; the sun rises and 
sets when the FCC says it does. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = 
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> But as an engineer, I am 
accustomed to the majority of credit going to the wrong person anyway, so the 
possibility of this occurring in this instance didn't really ring any alarms 
with me.  Everyone thinks of Steve Jobs with Apple Computer, but if co-founder 
Steve Wozniack hadn’t come up with a cost effective design there would have 
been no Apple II, no Apple Computer and Steve Jobs would be peddling Snapple in 
the Bay area. Most non-PR generated reports indicate that Paul Allen did the 
yeoman's work of early programming with Microsoft, but Bill Gates is the face 
man.  Fortunately for them, both Allen and Woz raked in millions of dollars (if 
not so much the credit) for their work. In you own book on the TransOceanic, 
you talk of most of the credit going to the marketing people, while the people 
who developed the marvelous technology it used got second billing, if that. The 
technical guys always get overshadowed by the marketing folks.  So I’m 
accustomed to the wrong people getting the lion’s share of credit.  As it is, 
as it was, as it shall be.   73,Curt Curt Phillips, CEM CMVP
W4CP ex-KD4YU; WB4LHI
ARRL Life; QCWA; SKCC; NASWA
Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group
WMPM AM1270- Coffeetime Sat. Mornings
Raleigh, NC USA
w4cp<at>arrl.net--
 "Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the 
sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out 
automatically and without pity." Thus spake Lazarus Long in Time Enough for 
Love by Robert Heinlein. 

Harold Cones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:But Curt, what about Charles "Doc" 
Herrold who was broadcasting regular, 
scheduled programs of music and talk in San Jose in 1910? His wife, 
Sybil claimed to be the first female DJ in 1913. His station morphed 
into KQW and eventually KCBS. Or the Physics Department of Iowa State 
University that carried on regular broadcasting in 1913, even 
broadcasting from the Iowa State Fair in 1915? Their station eventually 
became WOI. Or the University of Wisconsin station in 1917 that became 
WHA? I think the difference is that KDKA had one Hell of a PR man 
working for them. As I have researched radio history I have found 
hundreds of instances like this one. I don't think it was KDKA, but, 
ain't we glad somebody did it? By the way, I am just having fun here, 
not giving Curt a hard time (it is always hard to tell in email 
contacts). Radio historians have been debating this issue almost as long 
as there has been radio.

Harold

Curt Phillips W4CP wrote:

> from 440.com
> RADIO DAY 10/27/07
>
> 100-watt KDKA atop the Westinghouse factory in Pittsburgh 
> Marconi, Fessenden, 
> and De Forest were the catalysts. However, it was an engineer for 
> Westinghouse Electric who, in 1916, was broadcasting music from his 
> garage (in Wilkinsburg, PA, a suburb of Pittsburgh) over a wireless 
> (amateur radio station 8XK) who really got the whole thing started. A 
> newspaper article about the broadcasts caused such interest that the 
> head honchos at Westinghouse decided to build a real radio station.
> 
> 
> It took until this day in 1920 for the Westinghouse radio station to 
> receive a license to broadcast. The license for KDKA, Pittsburgh 
> came from the U.S. Department 
> of Commerce. Although the license was officially issued on this day, 
> KDKA did not start their broadcast operations for a week (they had to 
> wait until the license was posted in the station). On November 2, 
> 1920, the station aired the returns of the Harding/Cox election ... 
> the first radio programming to reach an audience of any size ... 
> approximately 1,000 people.
> 
> And so we salute this day as the official birthday of mass-appeal radio.
> 
> More KDKA info:
> http://www.hammondmuseumofradio.org/kdka.html
> 
> 
> Curt Phillips, CEM
> W4CP ex-KD4YU; WB4LHI
> ARRL Life; QCWA; SKCC; NASWA
> Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group
> WMPM AM1270- Coffeetime Sat. Mornings
> Raleigh, NC
> w4cparrl.net
> --
> Success is never final, failure is never fatal, courage is all that 
> matters. -Winston Churchill
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