On Tuesday 15 January 2002 01:25, you wrote: > On Monday 14 January 2002 21:02, chris wrote: > > On Monday 14 January 2002 06:49, you wrote: > >> On Sunday 13 January 2002 10:00, chris wrote: > >>>>> Yes, It would seem even jes-s supposedly did. > >> > >> Odd. Hyphenating jes-s after the reverent fashion of a Messianic Jew but > >> apparently not convinced that Messiah is Messiah, as foretold. Please > >> explain? > > > > I am converting to become a Jew and it is very common for Jews not to > > spell out the names of pagan gods. And NO I do not believe that jes-s is > > the messiah. > > Hmm... I guess you'd onkly be interested in OT modules then. I've always > wondered, who does someone in your situation identify as the beaten, > bruised, plain-looking and murdered but peaceful servant/saviour of Isaiah > 53 (referred to in 1Peter 2:24, quoted here from the KJV):
The servant referred to is Israel. Notice that the servant is identified many times in the text of Isaiah (ch 41, 44, 49, others). > >>> As this is the sword-devel list I do not wish to get into a argument > >>> over this. I was merely pointing out some well known facts. > >> > >> In other words, hit-and-run point-making? If they're so well known as > >> facts, why has debate ensued? > > > > Sorry, I thought that pilate being quite ruthless and not having that > > particular custom was well known. > > Ruthless, yes, but not totally, and politically he did have some clues. > Washing his hands of Jesus was a believable attempt at compromise, > pacifying one band the irate locals without a potentially offensive (to > other locals) direct act. It is known from historical documents that Pilate never had the custom of releasing a prisoner on pesach. > Is it possible that this information is only ``well-known'' with certain > Judaic circles? No, it has even been reported on the discovery channel. > It has the ring of one of those assumed-truth arguments, the ``but of > course'' or ``as everyone knows'' throwaway. I'd check, if I were you. I have. > Cheers; Leon -- 9:47am up 34 days, 17:36, 10 users, load average: 0.44, 0.26, 0.15
