On May 7, 2009, at 4:46 AM, Adrian Korten wrote:

Good day,

I am trying to help with a Thai version of Torrey's New Topical Textbook. However, the references are not working as I expected. Could someone please explain what I'm doing wrong or if it is a bug or missing feature? I am using the Sword Project for Windows but don't know this has to do with the sword engine or the UI.

I don't know ThML well enough to comment on it, but will regarding OSIS.



I have tried this with ThML and OSIS style references in a IMP file. They have different results but the end result is not what I'd like. I have attached my test files. What I would like is to only display the Thai text in the lexicon window. I'd like to have a pop-up or jump-to verse selection available. What I would like is for it to read the English/standard bible references but display the Thai references.

Instead, the OSIS version seems to read and display only the Thai references and does not pop up a verse or display a verse list. While the ThML version seems to read and display the English/ standard references and then pop up a verse(s) or display a verse list.

I have not tested this a fully conformant OSIS or ThML document. Is that the problem?

No, it is not a problem. The SWORD engine does not care as long as the parts are as it expects. Using imp2mod is a great way to do testing.


Or is it something else? Nor have I tested it with other programs on other platforms because most of the users will be Windows users and most already have the Sword Project version.

To see if this is a UI problem try it in Xiphos on Windows which uses the SWORD engine. To see if it is an encoding problem, try BibleDesktop, which uses the JSword engine.

$$$AFFLICTED, DUTY TOWARD THE
- OSIS example <reference osisRef="Jer.32.39">ch. 32:39</reference>

This is the proper form and should show "ch. 32:39" as the text for a hyperlink.


- english ref test <reference osisRef="Act.12.5"> Lukes book </ reference>
$$$BEAR, THE
The kingdom of Antichrist<br /><reference>Rev 13:2</reference>

This is not a proper reference as it has no osisRef. It should display Rev 13:2, but not as a hyperlink.


$$$ประกาศ
โดยพระคริสต์ <reference osisRef="Eph.2.17, Act.10.36"> เอเฟซัส 2:17 กิจการ 10:36 </ reference><br />

This is not a valid osisRef as it is using a comma and not a space for a separator.


โดย ผู้รับใช้พระเจ้า <reference osisRef="Isa.52.7, Rom.10.15"> อิสยาห์ 52:7, โรม 10:15 </reference><br /> โดยทูตสวรรค์ <reference osisRef="Luk.2.14"> ลูกา 2:14 </reference><br />
$$$จะพิพากษา
เผยความในใจ <reference osisRef="Lev.12.14, 1Co. 4.5">ปัญญาจารย์ 12:14 1 โครินธ์ 4:5</reference><br /> ผู้ใดจะยืนอยู่ได้ได้ <reference osisRef="Psa.130.3, 143.2, Rom 3:19">สดุดี 130:3 143:2 โรม 3:19</reference><br />

This is not a valid osisRef, not only because of the comma, but also:
Psa is not the OSIS name for Psalms.
143.2 does not have a book name.
Rom 3:19 is not an OSIS ref as it uses spaces and colon.

While it is not a valid osisRef, both the SWORD and JSword engines probably don't care and probably can create a verse list from it just fine.

And while it is valid to have an osisRef point to more than one verse, I don't think the SWORD engine handles it all that well. Most SWORD frontends are chapter at a time viewers. Having a reference point to two or more chapters would be problematic. (The same probably goes for ThML, too.)

It would be better to encode this last one as:
<reference osisRef="Ps.130.3">สดุดี 130:3</reference> <reference osisRef="Ps.143.2">สดุดี 143:2</reference> <reference osisRef="Rom.3:19">โรม 3:19</reference>

Hope this helps.

DM


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