Sword have a good Hebrew lexicon based on Strongs
(corrected by me), but I don't know where such things are stored.
The guys at
<http://github.com/openscriptures>openscriptures
have added several more corrections to my
corrections, and produced a tidy XML package,
downloadable at
<http://github.com/openscriptures/strongs/downloads>http://github.com/openscriptures/strongs/downloads
Could this be converted into a replacement Sword module by someone?
David IB
At 19:45 23/04/2010, Chris Burrell wrote:
Hi Daniel
I think to start with we really need a
Strong-tagged hebrew sword module and if
possible with the morphology in it. That would
help with the classic interlinears and in
particular in their accuracy. Perhaps that
already exists, but I haven't been able to find it.
And then as you say, a good Hebrew lexicon would
be a great addition. Hopefully David IB will be
able to comment on the best way forward here.
We'll need both at some point, so either would be good!
Chris
On 22 April 2010 00:07, Chris Burrell
<<mailto:ch...@burrell.me.uk>ch...@burrell.me.uk> wrote:
Hi Daniel
I'm copying David IB from Tyndale House who is
part of Tyndale House and leading the data side of the project.
A couple of emails have circulated on this
previously on our blogs, which I've tried to capture (in part) on
<http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-44>http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-44
http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP-45
I'm sure David IB will have more to input on
this... I've copied his original email below
Chris
==========================================
THis is the best lookup lexicon to use for
Hebrew interlinear - it is tagged to Strongs,
includes the pointed Hebrew and has an
abbreviated BDB entry. And the version
downloadable from
<http://github.com/openscriptures>http://github.com/openscriptures
has even more corrections than mine. For all I
know, it might finally be letter perfect! THis
version is also packaged in nice XML which can
easily be converted to any other DB format.
The equivalent lexicon at Crosswire for Greek
is, I think, in a much better state, and didn't
need all the work the Hebrew did.
The version of the tagged OT text at
<http://github.com/openscriptures>http://github.com/openscriptures
is also in very good condition (prob better than
the one at Crosswire). It appears to only
contain PD data - ie it doesn't include the more
complete morphology data which is copyrighted.
David IB
On 21 April 2010 23:22, Daniel Owens
<<mailto:dhow...@pmbx.net>dhow...@pmbx.net> wrote:
Chris,
I am not qualified to contribute code (though I
lurk on sword-devel because of my
module-creating disposition), but I am involved
in producing content for the very purpose you
mention. By the way, if you are at Tyndale House
now, you may know Daniel Block. He is my PhD mentor at Wheaton College.
There are two content areas with which I am
involved and would be happy to collaborate on.
One is Greek and Hebrew lexica. Currently at
<http://www.textonline.org>www.textonline.org we
are involved in collaboratively producing a
modern replacement for Strongs. We're starting
with a Strongs base but hope to provide a basic
and up-to-date modern equivalent to Holladay for
Hebrew or Newman for Greek, except that they
will be released under a creative commons
license. The challenge is finding people to
contribute quality entries with little or no
possibility of accolades in the guild of
biblical studies (and certainly no money!). The
other project is a collaboratively produced
morphologically tagged Hebrew text (see
<http://www.OpenScriptures.org>www.OpenScriptures.org).
For that we are looking at Django and Pinax as
the applications for collaborating on putting
together the data. For me, the purpose of this
is to fill a void of content for SWORD in order to serve the global church.
I notice that full-text lexicons are part of the
second phase of your plan. Is there any way we
can begin to collaborate on that? I am open to your suggestions.
Daniel
On 4/21/2010 2:07 PM, Chris Burrell wrote:
*What is Tyndale STEP?*
Tyndale STEP is an offline and online Java web
application which aims to make ancient texts and
maps as well as timeline data, genealogies, ...
accessible to everyone, scholar and non-scholar
alike, so that the Bible is illuminated by its
full ancient context. [see roadmap below].
Tyndale House will also distribute the online
version to pastors in the third world, who often
cant afford commercial Bible software.
A wiki page has been set up here:
<http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep>http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep
which has a lot more information!
*Who are we looking for?*
We need lots of help!
*Java developers*: this code base is mainly in
Java so we can do with all the help we can get!
*User Interface designers*: there is currently
a sketch of the user interface, created more to
prove a point. We need proper guidance to make
the software as user friendly and rich as possible
*Data harvesters*: Tyndale House could do with
a few extra pairs of hands to helpcollate the
data and make it available to the wider CrossWire community
*How do I start?*
Get in touch!
Read through the wiki page:
<http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep>http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep
Build the code from:
<http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment>http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment
Check out our feature/bug repository:
<http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP>http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP
Have a look at the proof of concept sketches
at
<http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/>http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/
<http://crosswire.org:8080/%7Echrisburrell/>
(including timelines and interlinears on strong-tagged Bibles)
Peruse the blogs mentioned on the wiki to get
a feel for the data and programming
As you can see, theres plenty to do!
*What does the roadmap look like?*
*/1st phase: build a multi-platform structure
for standard Bible-study tools:/*
Bible texts, including original languages, translations and interlinears
Language aids, including lookup-dictionaries concordance searches
History tools, including an expandable timeline with scripture links
Dictionary articles, culled from various sources and edited
*/
/*
*/2nd phase: add detailed geographic, historic & linguistic data/*
Gazetteer of all named places, with short articles and links to pictures
Co-ordinates of identifiable places to GoogleEarth
Map overlays of high-ref 1:20,000 maps of pre-urbanised Palestine
Flexible timelines which can be altered at key points of uncertainty
Full-text lexicons linked to the lookup dictionaries in tagged texts
*/3rd phase: add translation aids and links to modern publications/*
different possible translations for words and passages
differences in manuscripts, with evidence for each variant
expositions in modern and older commentaries, articles and books
*/4th phase: adds link to extra-biblical literature with searching:/*
search other ancient literature for similar passages in a similar context
look up Greek and Hebrew words in other ancient literature
view ancient texts with translations where possible
These tools will put centuries of research into
the hands of non-scholars. When the information
is laid open like this, it is easy to see that
the Bible is well preserved and translated,
reflecting historical events in real places, and
dealing with issues current in the ancient and modern work alike.
If you have any more questions or want to get involved, please do let me know!
Chris
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