<h1>ROFL</h1> is semantic markup. It is a level 1 heading. Given that this is one of HTML's title markup, one probably can deduce that it is a title. Note that IE, FireFox, Opera, Safari are not consistent in how they render <h1>.
If you had used the <font> tag then it would have been presentational. ;) On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Trevor Jenkins > <trevor.jenk...@suneidesis.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Greg Hellings <greg.helli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> And ThML continues to be used to create Bible modules because it is the best >>> tool for module creators who care about their presentation more than some >>> semantic dream world of markup. >> >> Um, strictly speaking a markup scheme (such as ThML) is divorced from >> presentational issues. Markup should identify document structure it >> shouldn't deal with display at all. But then having been a member of >> IEC/ISO TC1/SC18/WG8 at the time SGML was being standardised I have a very >> dogmatic view of markup; generalised not procedural. Sadly after all our >> efforts in WG8 to separate the two things the creators of HTML mixed them >> up again. Duh! > > Strictly speaking there is only one valid response to this. > > $$$Response > <h1>ROFL</h1> > > Sorry, that is presentationally oriented. Let me try again. > <html> > <head><title>Response</title></head> > <body><h1>ROFL</h1></body> > </html> > > Whoops, that's still a hybrid of semantic and presentation markup. Let's > see... > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en"> > <head dir="rtl"> > <title>Response</title> > <base href="http://greg.thehellings.com"; /> > <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/> > <style type="text/css">.heading1 { font-size: 250% }</style> > </head> > <body dir="rtl"*/> > <div><span class="heading1">ROFL</span></div> > </body> > </html> > > > How am I doing? I had to run it through the validator to realize that > I can't directly place a <span> within the <body> tag but I have to > first indicate that I am in a <div> before I can wrap a <span> around > it. I'm sure there's something semantically wrong about <span> but I > can't figure out what it is. > > Sorry, but I'll keep the presentation markup, when my source input is > more or less presentational, and the people I'm doing the work for are > concerned about its presentation and not about its semantic nature. > Something that the semantic-only crowd seems to forget: for automatic > processing, the markup is the conveyor of semantics; for humans, the > presentation is the conveyor of semantics. Since these are modules > destined for human display and consumption, then presentation is of > paramount importance. That is why HTML was so successful - it > acknowledges that print and graphical media destined for human > consumption is most importantly presentational and gives (relatively) > easily machine-readable and human-readable PRESENTATIONAL markup. > > It must be working, because of the two main formats that are available > (semantic OSIS and presentational ThML) I'd venture to guess that ThML > is the more common in SWORD modules. I'm open to being wrong, but I > would guess that I'm not. > > --Greg > >> >> Regards, Trevor >> >> <>< Re: deemed! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page _______________________________________________ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
