Thanks to everyone for responding earnestly to this.
Daniel
On 03/04/2012 08:07 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
OK Guys,
I spent a little time on this tonight.
I've reworked OSISHeadings to be sane. It was an old filter and
parsed everything manually; it had never been updated to extend and
take advantage of SWBasicFilter. It is much shorter and fairly well
commented now. I'm not promising it works, but it should be readable
by anyone who wants to tweak it.
In fact, I may have broken everything :) So please test. Or it may
just work for both old style and new style preverse chunks-- that was
my goal.
Karl, I tried it on the new KJV and got stuff out from RenderText.
Daniel, it outputs stuff from your OSIS Reference module. I'm not
sure it's the right stuff :)
I started an OSIS test in our testsuite. It starts by creating a
module from our new OSIS Reference document and then proceeds to run a
single test to check if RenderText will output something from the
preverse div in Ps.3.1.
Hope this is a good start.
Troy
On 03/05/2012 02:33 AM, DM Smith wrote:
Some really weird stuff going on here in the nightly build of BD. I
found Gen 1 in Matt 1, Mark 1 in Genesis chapter 36. Looked through
the entire module and didn't find Psalms.
Looks like JSword nightly flipped the two testaments.
I have something to look forward to this week.
-- DM
On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
That is wonderful news. I have not been updating to the nightly
build for awhile, so I downloaded the latest, but the test module
does not display at all. I am not sure what to make of that, but it
is a rather unorthodox module in that it only has a little bit of
content.
Daniel
On 03/04/2012 04:32 PM, DM Smith wrote:
The next release of Bible Desktop supports/displays book and
chapter introductions. It is available now as a nightly build. How
well the nightly build works on any given day is possibly broken.
AndBible will probably support it once JSword is released.
-- DM
On Mar 4, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Daniel Owens wrote:
I did some testing of several of the major front-ends (sorry, I do
not have a Mac or iPhone). I posted the results at
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample#Level_of_Support_by_Front-ends.
Overall feature support is strongest in BPBible, followed by
BibleTime and Xiphos tied for second. Then comes BibleCS,
BibleDesktop, and AndBible.
That can partly be explained by the fact that BibleDesktop and
AndBible do not display book introductions (that is a reasonable
choice for AndBible). However, both support parallel titles (for
synoptic passages in the Gospels) and canonical psalm titles (as
does BPBible). But BibleTime, Xiphos, and BibleCS simply do not
display the text of Canonical psalm titles. That is a severe bug.
As a novice module creator several years ago, this diversity
almost drove me crazy. I guess now at least module creators can
know what features are likely to work well, but it would be nice
if front-ends worked on supporting some of these features, even if
the text is passed through as plain text, such as canonical psalm
titles. Nothing like that should be omitted, even if the display
is not anything special.
One last note, variants do not work correctly in any front-end,
which tells me the markup is not right. If anyone can provide a
correction to the markup, please let me know.
Daniel
On 03/04/2012 01:18 PM, Patrick Zimmermann wrote:
Hey,
this is great news. Thank you.
If the rendering produced by xiphos or bibletime is at least some
sort of
acceptable I'll change the module I'm developing at the moment to
use the
syntax. Mostly additions, removals and alternatives are affected.
Thanks again,
Patrick
On Sunday, 4. March 2012 01:59:15 Daniel Owens wrote:
Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example
OSIS Bible,
I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is
consistent
with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles (
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles). The text itself is
mostly
KJV text, with a little Hebrew to illustrate more than what the
KJV can
by itself. I chose to use the BSP structure because the KJV
illustrates
the BCV structure well already, and I have no idea idea how to
deal with
paragraphs and poetry in the BCV structure.
You can find the example file and the following list of features at
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample:
- BookGroup and section titles, including parallel passages:<title>
- Book introduction
- List:<list>,<item>
- Table:<table>,<row>,<cell>
- Bold and italic text:<hi>
- Strong's numbers, lemma, and morphology:<w>, @lemma, @morph
- Notes, including study notes and
cross-references:<note>,<reference>
- Marked additions:<transChange>
- Canonical title (Psalms):<title type="psalm" canonical="true">
- Poetry markup:<lg>,<l>
- Divine Name:<seg>,<divineName>
- Variants:<seg type="x-variant" subType="x-1">
- Abbreviations:<abbr>
I compiled and tested the module, and I will send a separate
email when
I have a chance to record the results systematically. Suffice it
to say,
no one front-end supports all of the markup well, and some features
(such as variants and tables) are conspicuously poorly
supported. Since
it is not a complete text of the KJV, some odd display issues
should be
ignored, but most front-ends displayed the "New Testament" title
at the
bottom of Psalm 3. It would be lovely if front-end developers
would see
how their front-end handles it (or doesn't). I can send a compiled
module to those who are interested.
Feedback is welcome. If I have missed something or used
less-than-ideal
markup, please let me know, and we can change it.
Daniel
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