For the parser built into Java, the schema (BTW, a nitpick, it’s not a DTD) needs to be local. It will not go across the network to retrieve it.
DM Smith > On Mar 15, 2019, at 10:36 AM, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > Ah - but you do have to somewhere have an accessible copy of the DTD file. > > You can change its path to something else online (CrossWire or eBible) or > (faster still) somewhere local and validation will work. > > But you have to first know that this is required, especially if you use a > conversion script that uses the original path for the schema. > > As Tom explains, the other instances of the URL are not used for remote > access. > > David > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 14:26, Tom Sullivan <i...@beforgiven.info > <mailto:i...@beforgiven.info>> wrote: >> >> Y'all: >> >> If this question involves the use of that address www.bibletechnologies.net >> with respect to XML and validation of an XML file, please note that it >> has been a point of general confusion for XML users, but the address is >> only a unique identifier. There is no need for any parser or validator >> to actually access that URL. This is a rather obscure point. >> >> If the question is otherwise, sorry for another email. >> >> Tom Sullivan >> i...@beforgiven.info >> FAX: 815-301-2835 >> --------------------- >> >> >> On 3/15/19 10:11 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> > As regards the BibleTech conference. >> > >> > Much though I’d love to come to something I’ve never been to, there are >> > personal circumstances preventing it this year. >> > >> > If Troy does attend, please can something be done about the permanent >> > timeout that occurs for the domain specified in the OSIS header! >> > >> > http://www.bibletechnologies.net/ >> > >> > This still needs fixing, even if the OSIS committee no longer convenes. >> > >> > Who is able to unravel this ? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > David >> > >> > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 00:44, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org >> > <mailto:scr...@crosswire.org>> wrote: >> >> >> >> To piggy-back on what Peter is saying... from the last few emails, I >> >> am not sure everyone is on the same page... >> >> >> >> Michael Paul Johnson already converts the free DBL texts to SWORD >> >> modules automatically and makes them available for all of our software >> >> (the ebible.org remote installation source). As Peter says, I don't >> >> believe an automated conversion of USX to OSIS is ideal, but it works >> >> well enough to mostly read the text. I think Michael has done the >> >> best job he can do with an automated conversion of USX to OSIS to >> >> SWORD module. >> >> >> >> My previous encouragement to proceed to pursue one Bible of interest >> >> with a publisher was not an encouragement to do this with the intent >> >> to start a 3rd party company to sell content for CrossWire software >> >> for that publisher. My encouragement was to follow our policy and >> >> negotiate as a volunteer of CrossWire and explain CrossWire's policy >> >> to the publisher and offer to do the work and let the publisher sell >> >> their unlock key. To be clear, I would discourage anyone from >> >> pursuing an effort to start another organization to become a middleman >> >> selling publisher data for CrossWire software. There are very good >> >> reasons we are a non-income organization and it has served us well. >> >> It removes jealousy from any individual making money from the >> >> collaboration of so many. I would make very clear to any publisher we >> >> speak with that we discourage and do not endorse any organization who >> >> wishes to sell that publishers content for CrossWire software, other >> >> than the publisher themselves. To repeat, I am not against modern >> >> content being sold for CrossWire software. We have spent much effort >> >> into facilitating this for publishers and have a plan for them which >> >> they have been happy to follow. Summarily, in my experience over the >> >> past 5 years, any publisher I have pursued has been willing to take >> >> advantage of our current policy, as I have explained. They are happy >> >> to sell their own content. They are surprised we don't want a cut. >> >> They appreciate our ministry. Please do not try to solve a problem >> >> which you have not yet run up against. The issue is motivated >> >> volunteers. We have had people take this up in the past. Here is our >> >> last effort: >> >> >> >> http://crosswire.org/sword/copyright/ >> >> >> >> It has been so long ago, I can't remember who was leading that >> >> effort. It has long been defunct, but the goals were all aligned with >> >> our community. Reach out to publishers, explain what we offer them, >> >> keep track of contacts and history of communication, encourage other >> >> volunteers to understand our policies and get involved to push a pet >> >> text forward. >> >> >> >> Please feel free to do the hard work of following our policy to >> >> negotiate, obtain data, convert, encipher, and give the key back to >> >> the publisher to sell... the ultimate end would be for them to even >> >> manage their own remote install source, which we are happy to add to >> >> our autodiscovery registry. >> >> >> >> Please also be specific here as to which text you are pursuing. We may >> >> already have a relationship. For example, I am personally involved >> >> with the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft (the German Bible Society which >> >> Tobias mentions) and those who make the online distribution decisions >> >> for copyrighted material. It would be strange for someone else to >> >> email them cold and say, "Hey, I represent CrossWire." If you want to >> >> pursue a text which I've not yet spoken to them about, I am happy to >> >> introduce you. >> >> >> >> Regarding other modern material in digital libraries from Logos, et >> >> al., Tyndale House attempts to fill this void of producing freely >> >> available modern scholarship. As David Haslam has mentioned, much of >> >> their material is in SWORD format. I believe their intent is to >> >> ultimate make their remote install repository fully SWORD compatible >> >> and for us to add it to our autodiscovery registry so our other >> >> frontends can use their great materials. Currently, only their >> >> JSword-based STEP application accesses their materials now and it uses >> >> some material which is not in our module storage format. David >> >> Instone-Brewer is the contact there and we should touch base with them >> >> again to see where things stand. >> >> >> >> Some of these digital publishers, e.g., Logos, also secure exclusive >> >> digital rights from content creators to distribute their work >> >> digitally. They justify this by saying that they partially fund the >> >> research by paying for exclusive rights. Anyway, that's a completely >> >> different topic... >> >> >> >> Which reminds me... >> >> >> >> Is anyone going to BibleTech this year? I haven't been for a really >> >> long time. The last time I believe is when I met Karl there! >> >> >> >> https://faithlife.com/bibletech >> >> >> >> In Him, >> >> >> >> Troy >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/13/19 3:01 PM, ref...@gmx.net wrote: >> >>> I think it is simply inappropriate for an external organisation >> >>> to.negotiate on behalf of or instead of CrossWire >> >>> >> >>> Further I am really upset about the confusing of the "problem" with >> >>> popular but expensive and hence unavailable texts and the other stuff >> >>> in DBL. We have excellent relationships with many Bible societies and >> >>> now you setting up something which confuses this is simply wrong. >> >>> >> >>> If you must, concentrate on NIV etc, but please do not create an >> >>> alternative path for publication of CrossWire modules for the bulk of >> >>> this world's languages >> >>> >> >>> Wrt bulk conversion. Does not work and those who think it does have >> >>> not worked long enough with texts to the standard we want to see in >> >>> CrissWire >> >>> >> >>> Peter >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird >> >>> autocorrects. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >> >>> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Platform for the distribution of non-free >> >>> Sword Modules >> >>> From: Tobias Klein >> >>> To: Dominique Corbex ,SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum >> >>> CC: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 13.03.19 13:14, Dominique Corbex wrote: >> >>> > In France, people use modern (non-free) translation too, but >> >>> *printed* >> >>> > Bibles. >> >>> > Some people I know have installed Bible apps on their phones >> >>> but are not willing to pay for a non-free version. >> >>> > And for good reason, popular modern translation have their own >> >>> free apps on Play Store: >> >>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.SBG.s21) >> >>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.book.bible.bds >> >>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bible.jang.frpdv >> >>> > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.parole.de.vie >> >>> >> >>> Apps are often times available with non-free translations for >> >>> free, but >> >>> that's not the case for decent desktop bible study software. >> >>> Even if the market is reduced to desktop bible study programs, >> >>> that's >> >>> still a rather large market where Sword-based software could >> >>> increase >> >>> its share. >> >>> Desktop bible study software is often times used by people in >> >>> ministries >> >>> (teaching/preaching/bible study preparation). And these kind of >> >>> users >> >>> are usually also ready to pay. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> Tobias >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> >>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> sword-devel mailing list:sword-devel@crosswire.org >> >>> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >>> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> > >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. >> > For more information please visit http://www.symanteccloud.com >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > _______________________________________________ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
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