osis2mod preserves properly marked Psalm titles before verse 1 as part of that
verse. Other titles (and other pre-verse content) will either be put in verse 0
or in verse 1 based on other considerations. This is documented in the wiki for
osis2mod.
In Him,
DM
> On May 8, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Tom Sullivan <i...@beforgiven.info> wrote:
>
> Y'all:
>
> Thanks David.
>
> The Psalm titles are considered canonical because they are the Word of God!
> If Sword does not display them when the user would expect them, that that is
> monkeying with God's Word and completely unacceptable. The Psalm titles are
> theologically and exegetically significant.
>
> Switching off human editor titles should *not* switch off Psalm titles any
> more than switching off any of the verses of the Psalm would be acceptable.
>
> So, we have a Sword issue here in addition to a module issue.
>
> Obviously, there are questions here in terms of presentation of partial
> Psalms, and decisions must be carefully made. A request for "Ps 5" should
> always present the title because God put it there. A request for "Ps 5:2-4"
> need not. But what about "Ps 5:1"? I am OK either way, so long as the user
> can do "Ps 5.0" or Ps 5:0-1" or something to get it, and it is clearly
> documented. But probably GUI front ends should display title unless only "Ps
> 5:1" is requested and the GUI would normally return just that verse. If the
> GUI normally shows the whole Psalm (perhaps after scrolling up) the title
> should be there.
>
> In contrast to GUI front ends, with diatheke, I recognize the problem with
> versification here, and am not sure what to suggest. Should they be verse 0?
>
> diatheke should display them above the first verse. But perhaps either a
> command line option should switch them on or off, or maybe use verse 0?
>
> In sum here, we have a Sword issue here as well as a module issue.
>
> Hope this helps, and thanks all.
>
> Tom Sullivan
> i...@beforgiven.info
> FAX: 815-301-2835
> ---------------------
>
>
> On 5/8/20 10:04 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>> The difference is that JSword never hides titles with canonical=“true” even
>> with Headings OFF.
>> SWORD does and always has done.
>> David
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>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 15:00, Tom Sullivan <i...@beforgiven.info
>> <mailto:i...@beforgiven.info>> wrote:
>>> Karl:
>>>
>>> I cannot explain the difference between your linked picture and my
>>> results on Xiphos 4.1.0. The problem survived unchecking/rechecking and
>>> reboot.
>>>
>>> But if you look at my first email, you will note that diatheke does
>>> produce Psalm titles for ESV2011 and KJV, but after the first verse. You
>>> have to ask for verses 1 to 2 or higher. That is an issue in diatheke,
>>> but I can live with that. But I do not get them for NASB via diatheke.
>>>
>>> So this reinforces my (amateur) guess that the issue is in the module
>>> and the Psalm titles are not being recognized as canonical by front-ends.
>>>
>>> IMHO, because Psalm titles are canonical, front-ends should put a
>>> difference in display between them and human editor supplied titles.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Thanks all.
>>>
>>> Tom Sullivan
>>> i...@beforgiven.info
>>> FAX: 815-301-2835
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/20 9:28 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
>>> > On 5/8/20 8:21 AM, Tom Sullivan wrote:
>>> >> Yes, the box is checked.
>>> >
>>> > The reason I ask is that I see this just fine in Xiphos.
>>> > http://karl.kleinpaste.org/xiphos/nasb-ps-5-1.png
>>> > (pardon the colors, I do CSS things to make certain stuff really obvious.)
>>> >
>>> > diatheke doesn't produce headers, not even when asked with "-o h".
>>> >
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