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I would obvious encourage the use of "well balanced" over "broken".
The use cases we need to solve are varied, but the typical cases have to be
priorities.
1) Users lookup verses by reference, e.g., for Dan 3:7. What should they get?
Majority of users don't ask for the Greek or Hebrew version of Daniel or even
know about the difference.
2) Users want to compare a verse across translations. This is the primary
motivator for defined versification schemes and maps between them. e.g. when a
user is reading Ps 10:1, and ask to see it in an LXX translation, we need to
show them Ps.9.21.
I understand the desire to let publishers flow their texts however they want,
and we should do better for the publishers, but that is by far not the majority
use case for users.
On April 24, 2023 9:51:56 AM MST, Michael Johnson <mich...@ebible.org> wrote:
>Hi Br. Cyrille,
>
>Actually, that work-around might work for Catholic versification, but not for
>the ecumenical versification of the WEB. That is because the World English
>Bible contains both Daniel translated from the Hebrew traditional text (DAN)
>and Daniel translated from the Greek Septuagint (DAG). The USFM markup is
>correct. The ability of the Sword Engine to interpret it is broken.
>
>On 4/24/23 01:43, Fr Cyrille wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> THe problem is the same with xiphos.
>> If you want your file readable with the Catholic versification, you need to
>> use the DAN \id in your usfm file, and not \id DAG.
>> It's not a front-end issue but an usfm issue.
>> @Jon, you probably know, with Andbible in the list of the bible books, the
>> DC and accessible with the +.
>>
>> Le 23/04/2023 à 09:29, Michael Johnson a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello, Jonathan.
>>>
>>> WEB and WEBC indeed contain Daniel (Greek). However, I don't know how to
>>> select a Sword Engine versification that can cause the front ends
>>> (AndBible, Bishop, Xiphos, etc.) to properly display Daniel (Greek). They
>>> can display some fragments of Daniel (Greek), like Susanna and Bel and the
>>> Dragon, but the World English Bible isn't split up that way, and won't be.
>>> Daniel (Greek) makes more sense when presented as a whole. I'm not sure if
>>> this is possible to do within the Sword ecosystem.
>>>
>>> In the mean time, eBible.org epub files work well with Google Books and
>>> Apple Books, among other epub readers, no matter what their versification.
>>> You can get to any chapter in about 3 taps. The Sword Engine tries to
>>> force-fit every Bible translation into a small set of predefined,
>>> hard-coded versification schemes, none of which exactly match the World
>>> English Bible. In fact, they don't exactly match a very high percentage of
>>> Bible translations.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/22/23 19:36, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Â Name-> Jonathan Faust
>>>> Â Email-> jonfa...@tutanota.com
>>>> Â Subject-> AndBible WEBC Daniel
>>>> Â Form URL-> https://eBible.org/cgi-bin/contact.cgi
>>>> Â Remote IP-> 172.69.204.168
>>>> Hi there!
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if I'm mistaken, but I'm not seeing Daniel (Greek) in my bible
>>>> app. It looks like both the WEB and WEBC contain Esther (Greek) but lack
>>>> Daniel (Greek). This would imply WEBC contains no translation of Daniel. I
>>>> see it on browser bible and in the EPUB. Is this an issue with AndBible,
>>>> the source WEB files, or something else?
>>>
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