Quite so. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > dx.com] On Behalf Of John Figliozzi > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 7:34 PM > To: Shortwave programming discussion > Subject: Re: [Swprograms] Fwd: [Swlfest] In The Middle East: Shortwave 3, Internet 0 > > Yeah, but I think the lesson here is that what we need most in > emergencies is redundancy. Unfortunately, when budgets are put > together that need is forgotten or at least underassessed. To me, > wireless solutions and wired solutions must go hand-in-hand. > > John KC2BPU > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Scott Royall wrote: > > > What most hams overthink is their capacity for traffic handling. > > Modern > > disasters require petabytes to be moved hours ago. > > > > Scott KE5NPZ > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> dx.com] On Behalf Of Richard Cuff > >> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 5:33 PM > >> To: Shortwave programming discussion; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: [Swprograms] Fwd: [Swlfest] In The Middle East: Shortwave 3, > > Internet 0 > >> > >> Some might have heard about this...I was thinking the same thing > >> earlier today... > >> > >> Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Curt Phillips W4CP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Date: Feb 1, 2008 6:21 PM > >> Subject: [Swlfest] In The Middle East: Shortwave 3,Internet 0 > >> To: Tarheel Scanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Cc: rtpnet RARS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, SWLFest SWLFest > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> > >> > >> Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast > >> (story below) > >> > >> Don't get me wrong. As some of you know, I was teaching about the > >> Internet at community colleges back before most people knew it > >> existed, and I like it and use it on a daily basis. > >> > >> But as Scotty said, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier > >> it is to stop up the drain." (Trust a nerd to give you a Star Trek > >> quote.:-) > >> > >> Whether these cables were cut on purpose or by accident, it > >> highlights > >> the vulnerability of this very complicated system that requires > >> infrastructure around the world. As we all know (and we hams prove > >> every Field Day), give us a generator, a tent and some trees to > >> string > >> up some antenna wire, and we'll have a shortwave station on the air > >> quickly. And the intended recipients will only need a small portable > >> battery-powered radio. To get a more reliable, larger coverage area > >> takes a bit more work on the transmitter site, but it's still a > >> system > >> that is much tougher to stop than the Internet. > >> > >> We all know this, but you might want to pass along this story to > >> those > >> who say, "What is the need for shortwave radio when we have the > >> Internet?" > >> > >> Hope to see you at the Fest. > >> > >> 73, > >> Curt W4CP > >> > >> > >> > >> Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast > >> > >> (CNN) -- An undersea cable carrying Internet traffic was cut off the > >> Persian Gulf emirate of Dubai, officials said Friday, the third loss > >> of a line carrying Internet and telephone traffic in three days. > >> > >> Dubai has been hit hard by an Internet outage apparently caused by a > >> cut undersea cable. > >> Ships have been dispatched to repair two undersea cables damaged on > >> Wednesday off Egypt. > >> > >> FLAG Telecom, which owns one of the cables, said repairs were > >> expected > >> to be completed by February 12. France Telecom, part owner of the > >> other cable, said it was uncertain when repairs on it would be > >> repaired. > >> > >> Stephan Beckert, an analyst with TeleGeography, a research company > >> that consults on global Internet issues, said the cables off Egypt > >> were likely damaged by ships' anchors. > >> > >> The loss of the two Mediterranean cables -- FLAG Telecom's FLAG > >> Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, a cable owned by a consortium of > >> more > >> than a dozen telecommunications companies -- has snarled Internet and > >> phone traffic from Egypt to India. > >> > >> Officials said Friday it was unclear what caused the damage to FLAG's > >> FALCON cable about 50 kilometers off Dubai. A repair ship was en > >> route, FLAG said. > >> > >> Eric Schoonover, a senior analyst with TeleGeography, said the FALCON > >> cable is designed on a "ring system," taking it on a circuit around > >> the Persian Gulf and enabling traffic to be more easily routed around > >> damage. > >> > >> Schoonover said the two cables damaged Wednesday collectively account > >> for as much as three-quarters of the international communications > >> between Europe and the Middle East, so their loss had a much bigger > >> effect. > >> > >> Without the use of the FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, some > >> carriers were forced to reroute their European traffic around the > >> globe, which could cause delays, Beckert said. > >> > >> Other carriers could use SeaMeWe-3, an older cable that remained the > >> only direct connection from Europe to the Middle East and Asia. > >> Because this cable is older, it has a smaller capacity than the two > >> damaged cables, Beckert said. > >> > >> Still, Beckert stressed that although the problem created a "big > >> pain" > >> for many of carriers, it did not compare to the several months of > >> disruption in East Asia in 2006 after an earthquake damaged seven > >> undersea cables near Taiwan. > >> > >> FULL STORY: > >> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/01/internet.outage/index.html > >> > >> > >> Curt Phillips, CEM CMVP > >> W4CP ex-KD4YU; WB4LHI > >> ARRL Life; QCWA; SKCC; NASWA > >> Tar Heel Scanner/SWL Group > >> WTSB AM1090- Sat. Mornings 6AM-9AM > >> Raleigh, NC USA > >> curt<at>nerdster.net > >> -- > >> "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough." - > >> Mario Andretti > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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