How can the IDs for the buttons on a toolbar be set and for the Menu widgets?

In the application there are toolbar and menubar managers on which actions are 
added. So the widget is not there but somehow created internally when 
constructing the UI. A ID can be set to an action, but I think it has nothing 
to do with Widget#setData(...)

I probably won't use getting widgets by ID, but I wonder how this could be done 
for widgets of type Menu and for Button widgets in a toolbar.

This is of course more a SWT question than a SWTBot question.



      
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