I downloaded and reinstalled multiple times between March 1st and
march 15th.  Finally, I installed for the last time around March
15th.  During this time, I tried to ask questions about errors I
encountered only to be continually rebuffed, since no one appeared to
actually follow the directions.

Sometime in the last week, fabien has been making changes and released
a new sfGuardPlugin.  He has known this whole time that I have beend
complaining about it.  He never mentioned it here or anywhere that I
can find to visit.  Where exactly do I look to find that this has
happened?  And, exactly would I revisit this particular place if it
has never told me any information of immediate use?  How often should
I revisit this place in my normally busy day?  Why would I make this
particular place something to check on a regular basis?

I will get the latest version now.

/Joe

On Apr 10, 9:48 am, "Mark Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/04/2008, Joe Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >  I have been trying to follow the directions in every single piece of
> >  documentation I can find.  When I follow these directions, I run into
> >  issues.  I then report the issues EXACTLY as I run into them.
> >  Everyone on the list then jumps on me and accuses me of not reading
> >  the documentation or having a "bad attitude".
>
> "Bad attitude" is something you MOST CERTAINLY HAVE.
>
> There is a case to be addressed here though. The documentation is of
> varying quality, and some of it needs some working over (particularly
> stuff in the plugins).
>
> >  I want to be a USER of the materials.  I do not want to be a
> >  DEVELOPER.  However, you seem to not want USERS.
>
> Right, so get off the developer list and use the symfony-users list.
> Also, don't expect much help in open source communities with the
> manner in which you interact with people.
>
> It's your kind of people that turns open source communities sour.
>
> Mark
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