On Jul 24, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Jonathan Wage wrote:

> You have to remember that Symfony2 is very new so everyone has to get
> familiar with it. The code is still only at preview release stability
> so it will take some time for things to be as active and easy to get
> community support as symfony 1.

I understand, and I didn't mean that as a criticism; I am highly impressed by 
Symfony2, which is why I'm using it.  I was merely pointing out a problem that 
doubtless others have had, as part of my reasoning for wanting a second group.

>> If we could have our own group for sf2, that would be awesome!
>> 
> 
> I use filters for this to separate the group into symfony1 and
> symfony2 lists. That way we don't divide and split the community which
> I don't think would be a good thing.

Is there, then, a convention for posting topics for one or the other?  I have 
seen a few posts with [symfony2 in the subject, etc, but that isn't documented 
on the website or anything, so it's not something that newcomers would be aware 
of.  That would be extremely helpful to put on there.

I don't see having a seperate group as dividing the community so much as I 
would see it as allowing a focus of specific interests.  I realize that many 
people are very interested in the 1.x symfony branches; I am as well, but 
merely as a curiosity.  I don't have time to read through all of the posts to 
try to figure out if they apply to symfony2, and I don't ever plan to use the 
old symfony framework.  I'm sure that there are some similarities between the 
two, but if so, they aren't significant enough that any of the emails I have 
read through pertaining to symfony1 gave me any new insight as to how to use or 
contribute to symfony2.

In short, I don't really want to see *any* of the emails that only pertain to 
symfony1, but I am currently forced to sift through them in order to find 
anything that I *do* want to see.

On the other hand, it would be very easy for someone interested in both 
branches to subscribe to a second group.  It would be much easier to find 
answers to questions relating to symfony2, as someone could quite easily search 
the google group page for symfony2.  Currently, when I do a search on the group 
page for this group or for symfony-users, I find little or nothing of use, 
since close to every item returned pertains to symfony1 and not to symfony2.

Anyway, that's my $.02.  If you leave it as is, I would appreciate any advice 
you have on filtering -- that would work if I don't have other options.

Also, where are the symfony2 docs stored that you can submit a pull request?  
Are they in the git repo somewhere that I haven't stumbled across yet?  If so, 
that would be a great thing to include in the docs!

The documentation on the web seems to have a lot of assumptions built in about 
what the reader already knows that made it nearly unintelligible to me.  That 
could just mean that I'm dense, but I would love to go through and make some 
small additions in places to clarify things that did not make sense to me on my 
first couple reads through, if you'll just point me in the right direction.

Thanks for all your hard work; this is the first framework I've found in 10 
years that inspired me to actually use it over the framework I wrote and used 
internally 10 years ago.  I am really excited to see it grow up, and hope to be 
able to contribute.

- taxilian

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