Hi,

So we had our first meeting:
http://doodle.com/4cnzme7xys3ay53w

Logs:
http://trac.symfony-project.org/wiki/Symfony2IRCMeetingLogs

1) IRC meeting process
We agreed that the doodle URL to vote on the agenda priorities will not be 
published until after the proposal phase has closed 24 hours before the 
meeting. Furthermore it was decided to add a section to the official manual 
with some instructions on the meetings. Lukas volunteered to take care of that.

2) Handling different output formats
The general consensus was to not add "context" support to the DIC and instead 
look towards finding best practices that Bundle authors can follow to ensure 
that their controllers are flexible enough to handle different output formats. 
Jordi offered to write a proof of concept until next week to "a view-class best 
practice integrated at the framework level so the best practice is easier to 
implement and follow". One major concern by Fabien was to not complicate things 
for beginners.

Furthermore it was stated that there is a need to expand the documentation on 
how to define and use custom view's (volunteers needed 
http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9245). Finally there is a need to define 
additional view's to handle JSON/XML/etc response types to be added to core 
(volunteers needed http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9246, 
http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9247).

3) Security Component
It was decided to "move listeners with parameters to non-shared services" 
(volunteers needed http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9248). Also "adding a 
way to add listeners in between of existing ones" was considered to be a useful 
feature (volunteers needed http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9249). 
Finally it was proposed to "start getting together a list of events and default 
listeners on it", for which it was suggested to check Spring (volunteers needed 
http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9250).

4) Default config format
The general consensus was that having a mix of different formats wasn't 
necessarily bad and that XML is easier to read for DIC configs, but that YAML 
should be the recommended for app level configuration. It was also agreed that 
there should still be made some effort towards enabling authors to easily 
validate Extension configurations (volunteers needed 
http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9251). Jordi offered to convert a 
complex DIC config in order to illustrate if in fact complex DIC configurations 
are really harder to read in YAML. Finally it was said that it would make sense 
to invest in conversion tools to make it easier for people to migrate provided 
configurations to another format (volunteers needed 
http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/9252).

Please expand in case I missed something (especially the tickets could use some 
more explanations). This is a lot more tedious than I thought :)

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
[email protected]



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