Very well-said and I hope it's said that well again and again :).

Per the admin bundle, yes let's discuss specific points that we can improve
on any bundle. Fortunately, this bundle was built off of django's admin
generator, which I've never used, but which was a very smart place to start.

Thanks

@weaverryan
On Jan 13, 2011 10:47 PM, "Richard D Shank" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 01/13/2011 02:18 PM, ryan weaver wrote:
>> Lukas is exactly right, and it's a great thing. The Symfony community
>> in general is creating "official" solutions all on its own. Perhaps
>> the best example is the FriendsOfSymfony group and its UserBundle:
>> https://github.com/FriendsOfSymfony/UserBundle. It's not official, but
>> its quality and community participation basically make it defacto.
>>
>> In that light, I do expect Thomas' bundle to become the defacto
>> "official" bundle. Regardless, there'll be one bundle that surges
>> ahead of any others naturally and we should all help that out by
>> focusing the bundles we work on instead of inventing competing bundles
>> (a problem with sf1 plugins).
> <off-topic-rant>
> I want to chime in on this, Ryan. If you look at the sf1 plugins there
> is an insane amount of reinventing the wheel. It becomes a
> disadvantage, figuring out which plugins are actually still alive and
> deciding the best place to put your effort, plus its wasted effort. I
> know it feels great to write your own thing and its nice to see your
> bundle listed on Symfony2Bundles, but it is actually to everyone's
> benefit to work in a cooperative manner. If you have an idea that you
> think will work better in an existing bundle, throw it out, let it get
> debated and maybe it gets used maybe it doesn't. The debate will make
> that bundle better either way.
>
> At the end of the day, we are all using Symfony because we love it or
> because our livelihoods depend on it. By continuing in the spirit of
> cooperation that is very alive in the SF2 community, we can all
> accomplish more of the things that matter to us.
> </off-topic-rant>
>
> Richard
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ryan Weaver
>> Lead Programmer - iostudio - Nashville, TN
>> http://www.iostudio.com
>> http://www.thatsquality.com
>> Twitter: @weaverryan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 13.01.2011, at 22:41, jaime wrote:
>>
>> > What about this bundle? It is guided in some way by Sensio? I saw in
>> > the IRC meeting that Bernhard will also start to collaborating
>> to that
>> > bundle?
>>
>>
>> Symfony was created at Sensio and obviously they still poor a
>> significant amount of resources into Symfony, but its much bigger
>> than that since quite some time. Actually as you might have
>> noticed in the list of people responsible for the core components
>> that will be focused on until the stable release there was only
>> one Sensio employee mentioned (Fabien).
>>
>> So while I cannot come out and say that the BaseAplicationBundle
>> will become the "official" admin generator for Symfony2 it
>> currently seems like the most likely candidate. There is certainly
>> nothing "more official" in the making that I am aware of.
>>
>> regards,
>> Lukas Kahwe Smith
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>
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