I agree with Benjamin - Why cant the standard just be the bundle name
for aliases for 3rd party bundles?

@SecurityExtraBundle, @FOSSomethingBundle ?


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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:33, Benjamin Eberlei <kont...@beberlei.de> wrote:
> 3.) How does \* constitute importing a specific class? How do you know what
> classes exist that haven't been autoloaded yet?
>
> I still don't get why this is such a problem rather then giving different
> annotation aliases per bundle as we give different names for EVERYTHING
> else.
>
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:50:44 +0200, Johannes Schmitt wrote:
>>
>> @Benjamin,
>>
>> to 1) "unsolvable" conflicts, e.g. if there is a conflict you as the
>> user can always alias one of the imports
>> to 2) it is most flexible because it allows to drop the aliases if
>> there is no conflict, why keep them at all?
>>  to 3) hard validation is possible because annotations need to be
>> imported by classes, if an annotation is not imported but used, then
>> there is something wrong (note that we can only make that assumption
>> if the class has imported at least something)
>>  to 4) it is likely because it is very similar to PHP namespaces, and
>> the Java implementation of annotations; besides it is also compatible
>> if PHP adds reflection support for getting the PHP use statements as
>> mentioned by guilhermeblanco
>>
>> @guilhermeblanco,
>>
>> I have worked on an implementation a bit, and we would basically need
>> a pre-processing step which gathers the use-statements from the class
>> doc block before the "real" annotations could be read.
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM, guilhermebla...@gmail.com [16]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Benjamin
>>>
>>> Not that large. When i introduced EntityNamespaces it was simple.
>>> The idea we could do is through a separate Namespaces per class, so
>>> just another HashMap is needed. =)
>>> The problem is when we could cleanup an already grabbed item.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Fabien Potencier
>>> wrote:
>>> > 3) looks better and simple enough as it reminds me of PHP
>>> namespaces.
>>> >
>>> > Fabien
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> > On 4/19/11 7:07 PM, Johannes wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> We have talked about this topic recently; now I want to sum up
>>> some of
>>> >> the solutions that were mentioned back then, and see what you
>>> think. I
>>> >> believe we need to find a better solution here than everyone
>>> setting
>>> >> up a different alias for his namespace, this is getting ugly
>>> really
>>> >> quickly.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1) Allow to register multiple namespaces for an alias
>>> >>
>>> >> Pros:
>>> >> - easy to implement
>>> >>
>>> >> Cons:
>>> >> - solves the problem only partially (all namespaces for an alias
>>> need
>>> >> to be registered in the same parser which is not always
>>> possible)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2) Allowing to declare aliases, and default namespace on a
>>> class-level
>>> >>
>>> >> /**
>>> >>  * @annot:ns("DoctrineODMMongoDBMapping", {
>>> >>  * "validation"="SymfonyComponentValidatorConstraints"
>>> >>  * })
>>> >>  */
>>> >> class A { }
>>> >>
>>> >> Pros:
>>> >> - more flexibility than 1)
>>> >>
>>> >> Cons:
>>> >> - also cannot handle more than one namespace per alias with hard
>>> >> validation
>>> >> - harder to implement than 1)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 3) Importing annotations that are used in the class
>>> >>
>>> >> /**
>>> >>  * @use("SymfonyComponentValidatorConstraints*")
>>> >>  * @use("DoctrineODMMongoDBMapping*")
>>> >>  * @use("DoctrineORMMapping*", alias="orm")
>>> >>  */
>>> >> class A {
>>> >>   /**
>>> >>    * @Id
>>> >>    * @orm:Id
>>> >>    * @NotBlank
>>> >>    */
>>> >>   private $name;
>>> >> }
>>> >>
>>> >> Pros:
>>> >> - works always (no unsolvable conflicts)
>>> >> - very flexible
>>> >> - hard validation is possible
>>> >> - probably best forward compatibility if annotations are ever
>>> >> implemented on language level
>>> >>
>>> >> Cons:
>>> >> - harder to implement than 1)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Let me also add that IMO we should not pay particular attention
>>> to
>>> >> whether the solution can be merged back into doctrine-commons,
>>> or not.
>>> >> It would be great if it can be merged back, but it shouldn't be
>>> a must
>>> >> IMO.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thoughts?
>>> >>
>>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >> Johannes
>>> >>
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