On Jun 3, 2013, at 19:09 , Gregory Scott Militello <j...@thinkof.net> wrote:

> Lukas,
> 
> Congrats on your RAD bundle, I look forward to seeing it in the wild.  You 
> guys may want to start a discussion with KNP (if you have not already).  
> Maybe there are gains for both projects.  I know KNP seems to be going down 
> the route of putting most of their customizations into their own bundle.   
> Hopefully we'll see some of these things make their way into the core.  
> Shortened syntax structures alone are priceless.

Just to clarify, we are not building a RAD Bundle, we are building an 
"edition". As such we are of course looking quite closely at KnpRadBundle.

> Ideally REST would not be such a pain that a specific edition would even be 
> needed.  For example, in Rails including active_model_serializers pretty much 
> sums up the setup effort.  A generator will build your model, a serializer 
> (used to control serialized data output) and a controller.  All you need to 
> do is write some methods to get and set data, unless you need to customize 
> output.  Jango's REST is not much more complicated.  SF2 would benefit 
> greatly from simplified setup of these bundles, and maybe a couple of 
> generators (Basic controller, basic customizable serialization control 
> [XML/JSON, output format, etc).

Well with FOSRestBundle its is infact not any more complicated either. There 
are a few configuration options to set but this is exactly where a 
preconfigured solution will solve this. We can of course discuss if 
FOSRestBundle should become part of the SE. However there we will need to base 
things on the core serializer, which will work fine for most API's that are 
just returning JSON or XML. Alternatively JMS serializer is much more powerful, 
but requires a bit more learning .. also we would then again have the licensing 
issue.

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
sm...@pooteeweet.org



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