Alexander... Nice to see the HAML port. Personally though im not so much interested in HAML templates as I am SASS for CSS. Did you manage to implement SASS? I know that last time I looked phphaml hadnt finished it off yet or support was lacking form what I could tell.
On 9/5/07 12:12 PM, "Kiril Angov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alexander Deruwe wrote: >> On 05 Sep 2007, at 17:32, Kiril Angov wrote: >> >>> I am sorry I will changing the topic a little but by reading your >>> reasons to use Flexy and your concerns about it being developed and >>> PHP5 >>> compatible why not take a look at PHPTal. There is a not very recent >>> symofny plugin for it that I took a look at some time ago. >>> >>> http://tracfort.jp/projects/symfony-phptal/wiki >>> >>> You get all the benefits of using WYSIWYG editors, you get the symfony >>> php helpers, loops, etc. I am personally more into using template >>> engines that do not depend on editors rather than Zend Studio so I am >>> using the template engine I ported from Ruby >>> (http://trac.symfony-project.com/trac/wiki/sfHamlViewPlugin). >>> >>> Again, sorry for the out of topic email :) >>> >> >> I'll take this opportunity to ask another related though off topic >> question... >> Generally speaking, if the developer(s) are also the designer(s) (no >> matter how awful that may turn out to be ;) as in my case, would you >> still recommend using a template engine? >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> Alexander >> >>> >> >> > Well, this is exactly my case. I am really not the designer but I get > some templates or prototypes, even photoshop files only and I know > enough to make them look the same as the photoshop files without using > 1000 divs and what not :) > And yes, I would recommend using a templates engine if you know there > will be somebody else coming along the way to work with you. I really > had no problems doing HTML + PHP. It is my personal preference that Haml > templates are really clean and are really easy even for non programmers > (proven by the Ruby community where they say designers are using Haml > without problems, I personally do not have direct experience). I came > from a world of using Smarty and I would not accept anything worse than > Smarty. really nice templating engine that gives designers exactly the > control they need and not more. My current project became a mess because > the designer was writing html with who knows what program and the > sources were such a mess that it became a pain to make it work in all > browsers and it even caused problems of layers flying around, etc, > because we could not see the structure of the html because of the bad > indentation and bad html writing as a whole. I tried to talk them into > writing well structured HTML because html is structured language (think > XML) but what I get is "yes" and then the same as before. Now you give > them Haml where you write less and you mess up the indentation and the > syntax and you are forced to fix it or it does not work. And is it hard > to write, no, it is logical and it maybe closely resembles YAML which we > came to love for config files. > > For every train there are passengers and just see for your needs. As I > said all was good with simple PHP as templating engine but it proved to > be flawed when you do not have professionals for colleagues (and luckily > they are not reading this list :))) > > i hope you got my point and please decide for your needs and I like the > fact that I can mix Haml and PHP templates and thus chose the best from > both worlds if needed. > > Kupo > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
