thanks!

Kiril Angov wrote:
> Great job, Jonathan, not shabby at all for antiques dealer. I am sure 
> many "php developers" can learn a lot from you. Do not stop writing to 
> the list and helping when you can, right :)
>
> Kupo
>
> Jonathan Franks wrote:
>   
>> I just thought i'd post up about my new websites. They're not amazing in 
>> any way but as I'm not a coder - I'm actually an antiques dealer - its 
>> proof that even total amateurs can make sites with symfony....
>>
>> www.ifranks.com
>> www.davidshure.com
>>
>> If you're interested in how I ended up making the sites, read on...
>>
>> I had a relatively expensive website built in 1998 but quickly found 
>> that it just didn't offer the flexibility I needed and it did terribly 
>> in the search engines. In 2004, I thought it was time to have another go 
>> and I decided that I should try to code it myself. I did my research and 
>> chose php. My first site was coded using various pear libraries, 
>> including DB and DB_dataobjects. I tried to use an object orientated 
>> approach (i'd read PHP 5 Objects, Patterns, and Practice by Matt 
>> Zandstra) but my code was very messy. About a year ago I decided to try 
>> again and after doing some more research, I discovered symfony. I slowly 
>> started playing with it and began coding my new site in earnest about 6 
>> months ago. By this point I had bought a second antiques shop and as 
>> both shops sold very similar goods, I wanted to reuse as much code as 
>> possible between the two sites. I decided to use the excellent 
>> sfDimensions plugin, which allowed me to have a shared backend and to 
>> use mostly templates to create two distinct looking frontends. I'm not 
>> sure how many hours I spent in total because I simply coded when my shop 
>> was quiet, but I'm sure that symfony made things much faster for me as 
>> well as helping me to code in a much more flexible and structured way.
>>
>> For the next stage... I haven't used any caching yet. My plan is to tidy 
>> up and refactor my code as much as possible and then investigate using 
>> caching to speed things up a touch.
>>
>> Its been fantastic fun and I just wanted to say thanks to all the people 
>> involved in making such a great framework!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
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