Thanks Lee.

Yes, I guess a UML tool could be usable although I don't know how well
that they're suited for databases.

I wish to get to work on my project already and that's why I'm asking
here what Symfony+Doctrine developers actually use. There's such an
abundance of tools for everything nowadays and it's quite time-
consuming to look at all of them. It's quite frustrating to spend a
few hours learning some new tool and then realizing it's missing
something very basic that you needed or that it crashes too
frequently.

On Jan 29, 11:49 am, "Lee Bolding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I expect you could probably get MagicUML to do what you want... it's pretty
> flexible and extendable.
>
> Maybe even Visio would do it :)
>
> I expect there must even be an Eclipse plugin out there too.
>
> Isn't the point of an ORM framework - and Doctrine - that you model your
> objects (and their relationships), and generate a database schema from
> those? So, you don't want a database modelling tool, you want a UML tool
> that will export to a Doctrine compatible format, correct?
>
> There's probably a bunch of tools in Java-land that could be adapted -
> anything that works with Hibernate, AndroMDA etc
>
> There's a list of UML tools here 
> :http://galaxy.andromda.org/docs/case-tools.html
>
> Happy hunting - but remember, if you don't find what you want - necessity is
> the mother of invention :)
>
> Lee Bolding
>
> w:http://www.leesbian.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Behalf Of awe
> Sent: 29 January 2008 04:31
> To: symfony users
> Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Visual modeling tools for Doctrine?
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> If you're referring to this Dia:http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/
> than it's seemingly a drawing tool and not a visual database modeling
> tool.
>
> A visual modeling tool should (basically) support defining the
> entities, their contents, their relationships, their constraints and
> so on in an easy to view and maintain way. PowerDesigner is a nice
> tool for that although probably too bloated and too pricey (~7,000$
> per seat!) for my relatively basic data design needs. I've been
> checking some open source tools such as Azzurri Clay, DBDesigner4,
> MySQL Workbench & Power*Architect but haven't found one that is more
> useful than a burden for my desired Symfony+Doctrine configuration.
>
> On Jan 29, 5:17 am, "Jonathan Wage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have been poking around in this area lately, although I was looking for
> > something a little bit different.
> > I want to generate a UML diagram for a set of models as a simple image so
> > you can easily inspect the full view of all your models.
>
> > What you are wanting would be very easy to accomplish with Dia. I know
> that
> > you can write things for Dia to generate the diagram information in any
> > format that you specify, xml, yml, etc.
>
> > I don't know of anything prepackaged that already exists, but it
> > is definitely possible with the technology out there.
>
> > - Jon
>
> > On Jan 28, 2008 8:32 PM, awe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Which (if any) visual database modeling tools do you use? Do they
> > > allow you to create a Doctrine schema directly?
>
> > > This is a re-post of:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/doctrine-user/browse_thread/thread/143...
> > > due to lack of answers.
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > --
> > Jonathan Wagehttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.centresource.com
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