Hello Lee,

read my reply on the other thread.



On 2/21/09, Lee Bolding <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 20 Feb 2009, at 18:14, Jonathan Wage wrote:
>
>> I would for sure use the form framework and design your own form
>> classes to handle the specific scenario needed. Using the forms
>> generated from your models won't be of much assistance I don't think.
>
> In this instance, that's not really an option - the requirement is
> that we need to build dynamic forms without needing a developer. Every
> new questionnaire would need (at the very least) a new form class, if
> not a new model... once we'd added 50 or so, autoloading all those
> classes would become a problem (not to mention deciding on a sensible
> naming convention, routing, etc...)
>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Gandalf <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I Inherit from sform and pass an object from the class that the form
>> will represent, in the configure method, I add widgets and validators
>> while iterating in the object I passed.
>
> Sorry, I'm lost. In my implementation the form won't represent a
> concrete object. It will represent an abstract 'field container'
> object (although, in theory, this could be any type of data object -
> its just a container), which will contain many field objects. Does it
> help explaining it like that? So, the abstract class could be say...
> "car" or "invoice" or "asset". Anything.
>
> Your code has hardcoded widgets and options in it - that's not what I
> want.
>
>> On 2/20/09, David Herrmann <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I think falling back to COMPAT_10 is one of the things I wouldn't
>> even
>> > consider. If you can create validator.yml files on the fly, you
>> can also
>> > create forms on the fly.
>
> As far as I understand, a form relates directly to a concrete object.
> If this is the case, it's going to be difficult - if not impossible -
> to use the new forms framework.
>
> I'm considering COMPAT_10 because it may work - the old forms system
> is actually a lot more flexible :)
>
>> > The road to the solution must be something like this:
>> > *) setup a list of possible objects and possible options for those
>> > objects (yaml comes to mind here)
>
> By this, I assume you mean different validated field types? eg
> textareaField, inputField, selectField, radioField etc?
>
>> > *) write a Form class based on sfForm that creates all the form
>> elements
>> > and validators based on the possibilities from the yml file and the
>> > options from the database on the fly.
>
> Hmm.... possibly. ideally though, you only want to recreate the form
> whenever it's changed, not on every request.
>
>> > I know that this sounds like a lot of work, but I think that most
>> of it
>> > is actually quite simple - and once you've got it up and running
>> there
>> > is maximum flexibility and options for further objects at hardly any
>> > cost. Start with the absolute minimum you need (e.g. text boxes and
>> > selects) and add further object definitions as necessary.
>
> I think once the solution has been identified it will not take much
> work to get a proof of concept working. It could prove tricky to add
> some advanced cases and validators though.
>
>> > The old validator.yml is a good base to build the option range
>> upon, but
>> > that's where its use should end. The current form framework is
>> much too
>> > powerful to ignore it.
>
> I have no doubt that the new forms framework is very powerful, but I
> think in this instance it could be difficult to bend it to conform to
> do something it was never designed to. The old forms system is a lot
> less rigid - so I've got a lot more confidence that using the old
> system would work. Infact, I can see Symfony 1.0 plugins that look
> worth investigating - spyFormBuilderInterfacePlugin and
> sfDynamicsFormBuilder
>
>> > This whole thing of course screams for being developed as a generic
>> > "dynamic form plugin", even if you don't want to (or can't) make it
>> > public - when it's a plugin, you can test it and make sure there
>> are no
>> > dependecies and maximum reusage options in the future.
>
> I'll make it a plugin... I've just created sfDynamicFormsPlugin. I'll
> base it on DbFinder, so it works with both Doctrine and Propel
>
> If anybody that wants to join it, please do - i'd like to see some
> demo's of the different concepts that have been suggested :)
>
> I think this will be one of those plugins that nobody knew they wanted
> until it existed... it opens up a few possibilities, you no longer
> need 1 module per model for CRUD, in some apps, you may not even need
> ANY models anymore...
>
>
> >
>

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