I am very open to contributors. First, I need to build something with it
before it is ready for anyone to use. So I will re-write the Doctrine
website to use it then I think I can begin a release cycle. You can see the
source in svn.

- Jon

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:49 PM, jukea <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Haha !  I just found what you commited 4 hours ago :)
>
> On Mar 5, 8:47 pm, jukea <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm about to start building the same thing here, and since this plugin
> > seems to be publicly available, I'd be appreciated if you could give
> > us a taste of what's coming. What timeframe do you plan for the first
> > alpha release ?  How open is this to contributors ?
> >
> > Julien
> >
> > On Mar 5, 8:07 pm, Jonathan Wage <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > > - Jon
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:02 PM, jukea <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Jonathan,
> >
> > > > can you describe a bit that Sympal plugin that I'm curious about  ?
> Is
> > > > it like some kind of framework implementing menus/permissions/etc...
> > > > like drupal does ?
> >
> > > > One can hope .. :)
> >
> > > > On Mar 5, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Wage <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I think I am fine with that.
> >
> > > > >     $sympalPluginPath = dirname(__FILE__).'/../../../..';
> > > > >     $this->setPluginPath('sfSympalPlugin', $sympalPluginPath);
> >
> > > > >     $embeddedPluginPath = $sympalPluginPath.'/lib/plugins';
> > > > >     $embeddedPlugins =
> > > > >
> sfFinder::type('dir')->relative()->maxdepth(0)->in($embeddedPluginPath);
> > > > >     foreach ($embeddedPlugins as $plugin)
> > > > >     {
> > > > >      $this->setPluginPath($plugin,
> $embeddedPluginPath.'/'.$plugin);
> > > > >     }
> >
> > > > > This is the test project in sfSympalPlugin and that works fine.
> >
> > > > > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > > > > - Jon
> >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Matthias N. <
> >
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On 2 Mrz., 21:41, Jonathan Wage <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Matthias N. <
> >
> > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > On 1 Mrz., 23:22, Jonathan Wage <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In that case it would load the one in the project plugins
> folder,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > sfSympalPlugin wouldn't load the bundled plugin if it has
> already
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > loaded.
> >
> > > > > > > > I think to solve this, two things must be changed in the
> > > > > > > > sfProjectConfiguration class:
> >
> > > > > > > > - additionally search for plugins in plugins/*/plugins
> > > > > > > > - allow to lazy load (enable) plugins
> >
> > > > > > > > Then, in your plugin configuration class you can enable
> plugins/
> > > > > > > > sfSympalPlugin/plugins/sfDoctrineGuardPlugin when a
> > > > > > > > "sfDoctrineGuardPlugin" was not enabled before.
> >
> > > > > > > This is exactly what I did to allow this. I was able to
> accomplish it
> > > > a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > > different ways, but not without modifying core.
> >
> > > > > > Hm.. if you don't need "lazy loading" it would be enough to
> change the
> > > > > > project configuration to automatically enable all plugins found
> in
> > > > > > enabled plugins/*/plugins folders. And this should not require
> too
> > > > > > much changes in sfProjectConfiguration.
> >
> > > > > > But you are right: I don't see a way for you to get this work
> without
> > > > > > a change in the core.
> >
> > > > > > For sf 1.2 you could provide code to manually enable these
> embedded
> > > > > > plugins by a similar hack like this in
> ProjectConfiguration->setup():
> >
> > > > > > <code>
> > > > > > $embeddedPluginPath =
> dirname(__FILE__').'/../plugins/sfSympalPlugin/
> > > > > > plugins';
> > > > > > $embeddedPlugins =
> sfFinder::type('dir')->relative()->maxdepth(0)->in
> > > > > > ($embeddedPluginPath);
> > > > > > foreach ($embeddedPlugins as $plugin)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > >  $this->setPluginPath($plugin, $embeddedPluginPath.'/'.$plugin);
> > > > > > }
> >
> > > > > > $this->enablePlugins($embeddedPlugins);
> > > > > > </cody>
> >
> > > > > > But it requires the user to do this manually.
> >
> > > > > > > > It should not make a difference no matter where a plugin is
> loaded
> > > > > > > > from.
> >
> > > > > > > > But I wonder why you really need this?
> >
> > > > > > > I need/want this because sfSympalPlugin is more like an
> extension of
> > > > > > symfony
> > > > > > > and to make things more maintainable I split the core in to
> multiple
> > > > > > > plugins. This just makes things in to smaller more maintainable
> > > > pieces.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > other reason is since all these plugins are truely a part of
> the
> > > > core, I
> > > > > > > don't want to have separate svn repositories and "plugin page"
> for
> > > > them.
> >
> > > > > > > > Using dependencies with the pear installer should do it. ;-)
> >
> > > > > > > Of course I can accomplish the installing with dependencies in
> the
> > > > > > package
> > > > > > > xml but that is not really the reason for me wanting to do what
> I am
> > > > > > doing.
> > > > > > > I also want all the code in these "core" plugins to be in
> onehttp://
> > > > > > svn.symfony-project.com/plugins/*repository and have one page
> > > > onhttp://
> > > > > >www.symfony-project.com/plugins/*
> >
> > > > > > I understand you and I could also imagine situations where I
> would
> > > > > > need "embedded plugins". ;-)
> >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > Matthias
> >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > Matthias
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:40 AM, naholyr <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > And what if you have "plugins/sfSympalPlugin/subPlugins/
> > > > > > > > > > sfDoctrineGuardPlugin" AND
> "plugins/sfDoctrineGuardPlugin" ?
> > > > Which
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > will be the good plugin to load ?
> > > > > > > > > > We'd have to deal with very architecture-specific issues
> like
> > > > "in
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > order my plugins are loaded ?", and I hate this idea
> which
> > > > reminds
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > bad days passed on things like Typo3 :P
> >
> > > > > > > > > > On 1 mar, 00:08, Bernhard Schussek <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jon,
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > I already thought about that matter as well, but I
> don't know
> > > > of
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > way how this can be achieved. I guess this could be a
> nice
> > > > > > addition
> > > > > > > > > > > for symfony 1.3, together with a few other plugin
> > > > enhancements
> > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > better supported plugin unit&functional testing.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > Bernhard
> >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Jonathan H. Wage
> > > > > > > > > Open Source Software Developer &
> >
> > > > Evangelisthttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.doctrine-project.orghttp://
> > > > > > > >www.symfony-project.org
> >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jonathan H. Wage
> > > > > > > Open Source Software Developer &
> > > > > >
> Evangelisthttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.doctrine-project.orghttp://
> > > > > >www.symfony-project.org
> >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jonathan H. Wage
> > > > > Open Source Software Developer &
> > > > Evangelisthttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.doctrine-project.orghttp://
> > > >www.symfony-project.org
> >
> > > --
> > > Jonathan H. Wage
> > > Open Source Software Developer &
> Evangelisthttp://www.jwage.comhttp://www.doctrine-project.orghttp://www.symfony...
> >
>


-- 
Jonathan H. Wage
Open Source Software Developer & Evangelist
http://www.jwage.com
http://www.doctrine-project.org
http://www.symfony-project.org

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