It kinda makes sense... but is also hard how to handle that... Maybe a small intro about Doctrine, but you must remember that using About forms, well, they are classes, if you dig up you find everything, but without any IDE, it's madness...
Maybe a 'Symfony for Dummies' was needed, in order to hookup people that doesn't have the minimum knowledge (as Prieto just said) On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:04, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Fabien, > > - With the introduction of the Doctrine ORM, number of parameters > and configuration options are increased manifold. Therefore, the > developer > must first learn all about the Doctrine ORM. Is that good? Doctrine > ORM > already providing a fairly good possibilities and options without > Symfony. > > - Symfony WEB forms are a bit too complicated and their relations > with the rest of a Symfony application is often unclear. > > WBR, > Ghost3D > > > > On Sep 18, 4:43 pm, Fabien Potencier <fabien.potenc...@symfony- > project.com> wrote: > > You say that symfony became too complicated, which implies it was not > > before. > > > > Can you give us some examples of what became more complicated? That will > > help us improve the framework. > > > > For instance, we have less and less configuration files. Since 1.0, we > > removed a lot of them, and removed some parameters also. > > > > Thanks, > > Fabien > > > > -- > > Fabien Potencier > > Sensio CEO - symfony lead developer > > sensiolabs.com | symfony-project.org | fabien.potencier.org > > Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 > > > > bghost wrote: > > > > > First, I would like to say that Symfony framework is not too bad, > > > because I follow its development from the first version. But I think > > > it became too complicated because it is evident exaggeration > > > with the introduction of countless parameters and configuration > > > files in order to automate all possible tasks. This entails that the > > > programmer spends more time dealing with the Symfony framework > > > than with the real problem. > > > > > P.S. I did nothing special but just followed the Jobeet tutorial. > > > > > WBR, > > > Ghost3D > > > > > On Sep 18, 4:24 pm, Sid Bachtiar <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple > > >>> application. > > >> If you're just learning Symfony, then yes of course you'll find it too > > >> much effort. This is true with any other framework/technology. > > > > >> But for those of us who have invested our time in Symfony, we find > > >> great leverage in using Symfony. > > > > >> So what is the relatively simple application you're trying to build? > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:58 AM, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple > > >>> application. > > >>> Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable. > > >>> So, Symfony - Goodbye > > >> -- > > >> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz > > > -- Sidney G B Ferreira Desenvolvedor Web --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
