Dear Jose,

I am a programmer for almost 20 years. I worked in almost all known
programming languages - from assembler language for many CPU families,
through Pascal, C, C++, C #, Ruby, Python, Java, and PHP-a.
Believe me that I long ago ceased to write applications such as "hello
world".

WBR,
Ghost3D


On Sep 18, 5:15 pm, "Jose R. Prieto" <joser.pri...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Symfony becomes too complicated?
>
> If you have no experience in using design patterns design patterns, If
> you have no experience in using design patterns OOP in PHP, If you
> have no experience in write and work with reusable code (following the
> DRY paradigm), them.... Yes, sf it's a complicated framework... But,
> only for you.
>
> Symfony is a very good and adaptable framework, is completely
> decoupled; if you don't like the render filter, simply comment that
> filter in config/filter.yml, and then you will not have to know
> anything about him... The same in other filters...
>
> And now, with the new reference book, "The symfony Reference Book",
> with ALL config files explained, and ALL parameters and options
> documented... If you make the statement "Symfony has definitely become
> too complicated  framework" is that you have not read all the existing
> documentation.
>
> Another explanation for your statement, is to know whether your
> application requires a framework, or not ... To make a hello world you
> don't need a framework ....
>
> Sid Ferreira escribió:
>
> > Well, could you share what you tried to do?
>
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:58, bghost <bggho...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:bggho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >     It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple
> >     application.
> >     Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable.
>
> >     So, Symfony - Goodbye
>
> > --
> > Sidney G B Ferreira
> > Desenvolvedor Web
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