I've thought about this too. But C++ is full of scary dangerous
backwards compatibility systems-programming-oriented features that
make safe programming harder and make little sense in a web
application.

I think your argument makes more sense if you're talking Java (or C#)
vs Ruby and PHP.

A more interesting question is: "if we're going to use MVC frameworks
anyway, do we still gain anything worth having by using loosely typed,
interpreted languages like Ruby and PHP? Assuming for a moment an
equally good framework implementation following the same design
philosophy in the case of each language?"

Yes, I think we do. Java is still considerably more verbose as a way
of getting your application logic coded. But there are interesting
Java framework-based implementations of Rails-style sites that aren't
*too* verbose:

http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=32723

On Sep 21, 9:28 am, pcummins <[email protected]> wrote:
> With the introduction of PHP frameworks and widespread use of MVC
> pattern in web development, has anyone ever wondered why we aren't
> simply writing our web applications in C++, and using 'templates'
> files for view delivery?
>
> It seems like a pretty interesting cycle.
>
> Internet begins
> High level languages aren't easy enough for newbies to write websites
> Scripting languages (php,ruby,python) are created and take hold of web
> market
> Enterprise level applications require standardization of programming
> techniques
> Scripting languages get standardized with frameworks
> Frameworks are entirely oo, and MVC ensues
> Programmers wonder why they ever stopped writing in C/C++.
>
> I love what Symfony (and other frameworks) have done for PHP.  I also
> love the flexibility and loosely typed nature of PHP, but sometimes I
> wonder.... how far away is a good PHP framework from C / Java?
> Imagine the performance gain of not having to deal with PHP.  I guess
> this is kind of the vision of .net.
>
> What are your thoughts?
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