On Sep 23, 8:10 am, fakingfantastic <lakatos.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently had a discussion with Fabien about this topic, and he
> suggested it would be best if I stage the debate here.
>
> Has anyone ever felt like the information they needed to get on
> Symfony was hard to find? Do you find that the information you need is
> very-well documented on the site, but it takes a while to search for?
> These are very big issues for me that over the last 6 months of me
> learning the framework, have made it quite difficult.

The information is not optimized for fast lookup. It is optimized for
a beginner who has the time to spend a few weeks working through
tutorials. For someone with the time to read all the way through the
tutorials, the amount of information is terrific. But there is nothing
like www.php.net. Often, I need to double check the parameters for a
PHP function such as date(). So I open a new browser window and I
type:

www.php.net/date

I would love something like that for Symfony.

And examples are needed. That is something that www.php.net has. The
Symfony API is here, but there are no examples:

http://www.symfony-project.org/api/1_2/

How does find one's way into a deep object hierarchy? If you just
click on an object in the API, you get data, but it is gibberish
unless you know how each piece connects to another. For instance, how
much do you learn here:

http://www.symfony-project.org/api/1_2/sfFactoryConfigHandler

A clickable UML map might be useful. While PHP is oriented toward
functions and methods, Symfony is fundamentally OOP, so an UML map
might be more useful that the long lists of functions that one finds
on www.php.net.









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