Seriously, if you had not posted this, we'd still think you're a smart guy, who just doesn't like Symfony's way of doing things.
But now, well ... familiar with the quote below? "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:04 AM, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is generated HTML code that I got after inserting the language > component within a table cell: > > <td><?php include_component('language', 'language') ?></td> > > where component 'language' is a component that uses Symfony WEB forms: > (from Jobeet tutorial): > > > <form action="/change_language"> > <input name="symfony" value="25f22a4d2133d1428b9bd2fb7c475162" > type="hidden"> > </form> > </td> > </tr> > <tr> > <th><label for="language">Language</label></th> > <td><select name="language" id="language"> > <option value="en" selected="selected">English</option> > <option value="fr">French</option> > </select> > > This is nightmare for all WEB designers. > > WBR, > Ghost3D > > On Sep 24, 11:32 am, Matt Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Sep 23, 12:29 pm, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > First: >> > [..] So you complicate some tasks in the Symfony >> > framework that already was simple and good. >> >> Well, that's certainly an opinion. >> >> > Second: >> > Almost 90% of the code that generates the Symfony framework >> > developer need to modify or re-write >> >> If the generated CRUD isn't helpful, don't use it. It's a tiny part of >> the framework that has a very specific use. You're complaining that >> your swiss army knife is rubbish because the corkscrew is a really bad >> tool for cutting string. >> >> > Third: >> > The result of all this is a complex directory structure, many empty >> > classes that only contain a skeleton and just inherits one of the base >> > classes, and finally the CRUD code that always must be re-written. >> >> It's not complicated, it's deep. The rules are very simple. So what if >> you don't need the base-class inheritance style for 90% of the time? >> It doesn't stop you doing anything else, it isn't slower, and when you >> need it, it's really, really nice to have. You're complaining that >> some things are complicated, but refusing to learn why. Don't wave >> your ignorance around as if it's somehow a good thing; it's offensive. >> >> > And to get all that, the programmer must learn a bunch of different >> > configuration and command line options. >> >> Can, not must. >> >> > And when a programmer, after a painstaking setup and configuration >> > of various options and parameters, finally gets the generated code, >> > he must re-write 90% of the generated code. >> >> I call bullshit, sir. You're on a mailing list *full* of people who >> are proof that this is a lie. > > > -- Blue Horn Ltd - System Development http://bluehorn.co.nz --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
