Whats wrong with magic in symfomy? Perhaps point out to him that at anytime
you can go and see exactly what symfony does in its "magic". Also, I'd
rather have symfony auto-generate code for me where a far larger number of
developers have tested, used, implemented and stressed that magic code for
bugs than my own implementation which will have no where near the same
amount of tested use for bugs. Pretty much , anything symfony can do for me
means less potential bugs. Try that on the lead developer

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:14 PM, ProdigitalSon <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Haha... more or less my stance.
>
> Its not that Zend is horrible - its just that it is lacking most of
> the time saving "magic" I've been spoiled with by Symfony and Django.
> Then again the lead developer is against "magic", which means we are
> spending a lot of time implementing a lot of things when we could have
> easily leveraged existing tools with no ill effects.
>
> ORM being one shining example. Sure we could have used Propel or
> Doctrine but that would just make development too "magical"  - no,
> better to re-implement the features we need using Zend_Db as the DBAL.
> <sigh />
>
> On Oct 1, 2:28 pm, Richtermeister <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'll take that :)
> >
> > Because Zend feels like Symfony after you drop it from 100feet into
> > little bits that need sketchy re-assembly.
> > I feel your pain ;)
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Sep 30, 1:05 pm, Eno <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, ProdigitalSon wrote:
> > > > If you get around to plugging it in to 1.3 id love to see a simple
> how-
> > > > to since its on my list of personal projects to pursue once i escape
> > > > my current "Zend Hell" ;-)
> >
> > > Why do you call it "Zend Hell" ? :-)
> >
> > > --
> >
>


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