To answer your comments: - symfony project:permissions sets all correct permissions - There is a symfony script check_configuration.php as a part of the library that can be run to check that all required dependencies are met. - symfony configure:database allows you to change connection settings for a database - symfony propel:build-* and insert-* functions do all the db-admin you need
But what if your specific application wanted to do only a subset of these? What if you have other directories set by other libraries you use, that need different permissions? What about multiple databases? What if you need to have a specific PHP module installed for functionality that you have included? There are many more caveats. Its not really as simple as you make it sound. And all of those differences I just mentioned occur with an application we have just recently made available to our customers. I am not attacking you, just trying to point out why a generic deployment script would be a difficult thing to do as no two projects are alike. On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Sid Bachtiar <[email protected]> wrote: > > A generic installer would be something like: > > - System checks environment requirements, the usual: php version, > apache version, mod rewrite, gd (plugins may add more requirements) > - User enter database name, user, password > - System creates necessary database structures (table, etc, etc) > - System check that cache, log, and upload folder are writable > (plugins may register additional folder) > > I'm sure there'll be a couple more, but they would still be pretty generic. > > Yes, a Symfony app can be more specialised and more complex, but I'd > say most Symfony apps we develop can use such generic installer almost > out of the box. Just like so many projects have benefited from > sfGuardPlugin, even though not necessarily that ALL projects use > sfGuardPlugin. > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Gareth McCumskey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > No it wouldn't. Wordpress is a CRM system at its heart and thats really > all > > its there for. symfony is much lower level than that and you cannot have > a > > generic installer created for it because there are far too many possible > > variables to consider and so many different ways you can develop an > > application with symfony that a single installer would never be able to > meet > > all the demands of the developers. > > > > THATS why symfony is popular, because it isn't a CRM application, and it > > allows you to do far more the way you want for your own needs, including > how > > you want to deploy it. > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Sid Bachtiar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > sf provides all the parts to make installers - you just need to glue > 'em > >> > together. > >> > >> Correct! And it would make it easier to spread Symfony to the mass if > >> it has a generic installer built in. > >> > >> I know, I know, what don't I build it myself? I'd like to, but at the > >> moment I'm pretty stretched out. > >> > >> But it also good to talk about it first, someone might points out why > >> this is difficult, etc, etc. > >> > >> A Symfony open source project called Siwapp (an invoicing system) > >> tried/tries/trying to have this kind of installer (www.siwapp.org). > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Sid > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:09 PM, david <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Wordpress is an application, Symfony is a framework that you can use > to > >> > build applications. > >> > sf provides all the parts to make installers - you just need to glue > 'em > >> > together. > >> > > >> > On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:32:18 +0200, Jake Barnes < > [email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Oct 5, 2:54 am, Eno <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Sid Bachtiar wrote: > >> >>> > I was trying to look something more for non-developer. > >> >>> > >> >>> > Let's say I developed a website then when I give the source code > to > >> >>> > my > >> >>> > client (who isn't computer illiterate, but is not familiar with > >> >>> > Symfony); at the moment I'll have to teach them a lot of things on > >> >>> > how > >> >>> > to install/deploy, symfony commands (clear cache), how to change > >> >>> > database settings, and so on. > >> >>> > >> >>> Frankly, what you're asking makes no sense. Deploying a web site is > >> >>> not > >> >>> something you can just give to someone who is not technical. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> One of the big weaknesses of Symfony is that it can not be deployed > as > >> >> easily as WordPress. The fact that non-technical people have an easy > >> >> time installing WordPress gives WordPress much of its presence on the > >> >> web scene. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Blue Horn Ltd - System Development > >> http://bluehorn.co.nz > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gareth McCumskey > > http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com > > twitter: @garethmcc > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Blue Horn Ltd - System Development > http://bluehorn.co.nz > > > > -- Gareth McCumskey http://garethmccumskey.blogspot.com twitter: @garethmcc --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. 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